[llukas]

Freedom you advertise: https://www.polygon.com/2019/1/28/18200610/metro-exodus-epic...

[stale2002]

> Freedom you advertise

You are free to not use other app stores, correct.

Don't use app stores that you don't like.

[llukas]

Not free enough to buy a phone with only one supported app store - this option is too good so needs to be illegal.

Meanwhile Librem 5 and Pinephone can provide freedom today but need cash, userbase and apps.

[stale2002]

You can simply only install the Apple App store... There is nothing stopping you from having a phone that has exactly as many app stores as you want on it.

You can have your phone that only uses the apple app store.

[llukas]

I cannot have phone with all apps in one and only store.

I do not want to deal with apps moving between stores or any other stores at all.

Nothing you wrote addresses that.

[stale2002]

> I cannot have phone with all apps in one and only store.

All apps? Are you aware that currently nintendo does not publish the Super Mario Switch game, to the iPhone? Super mario is arguable an app.

Your rights are not being violated because someone refuses to publish to your specific app store.

Instead, you can have exactly what you have now. Which is that you can get a phone, and only use the Apple App store.

That way, you don't have to deal with other app stores that you don't like. You can simply only use the apple app store.

> or any other stores at all.

Then don't deal with them! Don't use those other app stores.

You were the one, at the very beginning, who said this "cannot accept there is group of customers that just doesn't want to interact them directly.".

Which doesn't make any sense given your new statements.

It sounds like, actually, customers don't have to interact with these developers directly. No-one will force them to install other app stores.

In reality, this has nothing to do with what you choose to do on your own phone. You are free to use it how you like.

Instead, what you want is to force other people, to do certain things with their own property.

[llukas]

> Your rights are not being violated because someone refuses to publish to your specific app store. > Instead, you can have exactly what you have now. Which is that you can get a phone, and only use the Apple App store.

Today all apps on iPhone have go through Apple App store - this is what I paid for. With many stores some apps on iPhone could be only available only on other stores. This demonstrates that I can't have "exactly what you have now".

> Instead, what you want is to force other people, to do certain things with their own property.

App developers and other large companies want to force Apple to do certain things with their software to modify how things work on my hardware. Nobody forces one to buy iPhone.

Support alternatives like Librem or Pinephone - they are right long term direction.

[michaelmrose]

It seems that after the law passes neither YOU nor Apple will be able to keep vendor A from doing business with customer B which is great because neither of you is a party to the transaction. I understand why you prefer the status quo I don't understand whatsoever why you feel like you have a moral right to prevent this.