[zepto]

> Apple already has a technical solution, encryption.

How does encryption help prevent porn being sent to pre-teens?

[ryanlol]

That’s a completely different feature than the one we’re discussing. These things were announced together, but they are not the same.

Nobody is objecting to opt-in clientside content filtering.

[zepto]

Both of the features involve opt-in client side content filtering.

The only objections are to that.

[ryanlol]

The CSAM scanning is not opt-in.

Sure, you could stop using iCloud. That’s opt-out.

[zepto]

That’s not correct. This applies only to iCloud Photo Library, not to iCloud as a whole.

iCloud Photo Library is an optional feature, and there are numerous alternatives.

[ryanlol]

Doesn’t matter, it’s still opt-out if you were using iCloud Photo Library before these features were announced.

It’s really ridiculous to try to call this “opt-in”.

[zepto]

I was using iCloud Photo Library before this was announced.

None of my photos have been scanned, nor ever will be unless I choose for them to be. I don’t have to do anything to achieve this. They won’t scan anything unless I decide to go ahead.

That is the very meaning of opt-in.

Opt-out typically means that someone will go ahead with something unless you decline. This is not that.

I do agree that if I don’t want on device scanning in future, I will need to choose another could photo service, but in the meantime, nothing will be scanned without me taking positive action to initiate it.