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by ryanlol 1777 days ago
That’s a completely different feature than the one we’re discussing. These things were announced together, but they are not the same.

Nobody is objecting to opt-in clientside content filtering.
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zepto 1777 days ago
Both of the features involve opt-in client side content filtering.

The only objections are to that.

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ryanlol 1777 days ago
The CSAM scanning is not opt-in.

Sure, you could stop using iCloud. That’s opt-out.

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zepto 1777 days ago
That’s not correct. This applies only to iCloud Photo Library, not to iCloud as a whole.

iCloud Photo Library is an optional feature, and there are numerous alternatives.

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ryanlol 1777 days ago
Doesn’t matter, it’s still opt-out if you were using iCloud Photo Library before these features were announced.

It’s really ridiculous to try to call this “opt-in”.

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zepto 1776 days ago
I was using iCloud Photo Library before this was announced.

None of my photos have been scanned, nor ever will be unless I choose for them to be. I don’t have to do anything to achieve this. They won’t scan anything unless I decide to go ahead.

That is the very meaning of opt-in.

Opt-out typically means that someone will go ahead with something unless you decline. This is not that.

I do agree that if I don’t want on device scanning in future, I will need to choose another could photo service, but in the meantime, nothing will be scanned without me taking positive action to initiate it.

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ryanlol 1776 days ago
> Opt-out typically means that someone will go ahead with something unless you decline. This is not that

That’s exactly what this is. If you use iCloud Photos your pictures will be scanned unless you explicitly disable iCloud Photos.

How is that not opt-out? You never get asked if you’d like to opt-in to have your images scanned for CSAM.

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