[xibalba]

> pseudo-nerd businessman

I find this attitude towards Musk so, so odd. Where are you getting your info?

He was coding PC games as a teen, wrote the code for zip2, was the cto at x.com, and taught himself rocket science from textbooks (as confirmed by other rocket scientists). If that’s a “pseudo nerd”, who qualifies as a “real nerd”?

[gitgud]

> "He was coding PC games as a teen, wrote the code for zip2, was the cto at x.com, and taught himself rocket science from textbooks (as confirmed by other rocket scientists). If that’s a “pseudo nerd”, who qualifies as a “real nerd”?"

If you don't code for 30 years, people might not call you a coder anymore.

Hotz on the other-hand still regular live-streams himself programming and hacking.

[ramraj07]

If anyone has to have the coding chops of Hotz to be called a nerd then we probably have only 50 nerds in the world. Y’all can definitely log off of HACKER NEWS since the news is definitely not for you!

[vntok]

It's not called Nerd News.

[agumonkey]

Last time I've heard of his streams he started on a grandiose project and bailed out when stuck after a few hours.

[everly]

Those may be his origins but these days he seems closer to a glorified carnival barker (albeit a very successful one).

[ramraj07]

I hate Musk as much as the regular guy but the constant undermining of the people you hate is the reason people who do this are never successful.

Consider for a moment That Musk is a Nerd, a ruthless businessman and a cock all at the same time. He made (or at least partly shaped) companies that definitely do fantastical things. If you keep underestimating him only you loose not him.

[everly]

I certainly don’t hate him and don’t really see how I’m undermining him.

Just providing my opinion on why his reputation is different than someone like George Hotz.