[everly]

Those may be his origins but these days he seems closer to a glorified carnival barker (albeit a very successful one).

[ramraj07]

I hate Musk as much as the regular guy but the constant undermining of the people you hate is the reason people who do this are never successful.

Consider for a moment That Musk is a Nerd, a ruthless businessman and a cock all at the same time. He made (or at least partly shaped) companies that definitely do fantastical things. If you keep underestimating him only you loose not him.

[everly]

I certainly don’t hate him and don’t really see how I’m undermining him.

Just providing my opinion on why his reputation is different than someone like George Hotz.