[bluGill]

Spouses who needed to get out of the house while their other half was at work. They loved going to work with the same friends every day, chatting while cleaning up after the lunch shift... There was enough work to not be bored.

There are a lot of people who like having a job, but don't really need the money. Those that need the money move up to management if they can.

[ashtonkem]

> There are a lot of people who like having a job, but don't really need the money.

These people exist, I do not believe that any of them work at fast food restaurants. That’s an incredible amount of stress to put yourself through to “get out of the house” and meet new people.

> Those that need the money move up to management if they can.

I think you’re overestimating the size of management by quite a bit.

[bluGill]

Once you learn the job fast food is not stressful. It is hard work, but entirely routine.

Most people decide fast food management isn't for them, and move elsewhere. The ones who remain dropped out and need the free training.

[ashtonkem]

Did you read the article? It directly countermands everything you’re saying. I personally can’t figure out why you’d make a claim that’s such transparent nonsense.

> Most people decide fast food management isn't for them, and move elsewhere.

Perhaps it was too stressful? Just a thought.

[bluGill]

I have personally been in fast food, and I worked my way up to management. If what I say contradicts the article, then my personal experience contradicts the article.

Management is more stressful. That is a different from the line worker who has been working the same position for the last 5 years, with no interest in advancing. I saw several people refuse advancements because they didn't want the stress: they knew how to do their job and it wasn't stressful at all anymore. (they learned to shut off the customer who yells at them while the cook is behind on orders - this coping is an important skill)

[ashtonkem]

> If what I say contradicts the article, then my personal experience contradicts the article.

Then your experience is atypical.

> Management is more stressful.

But you said it wasn't stressful. Which is it?

> they learned to shut off the customer who yells at them while the cook is behind on orders - this coping is an important skill

Uhhh, this is not a good thing. You're describing someone shutting down in the face of excessive stress.

I'd also point out that claiming that it's "not stressful" and being shouted at by customers are mutually exclusive. Being shouted at is a stressful experience, definitionally.

[bluGill]

I said the line workers who has been in the same position for years is not stressful. Management is a very different thing.

[watwut]

Many of those spouses in fact needed money.

[ashtonkem]

Exactly. There are all kinds of better social outlets if you don’t need money; book clubs, knitting groups, and game nights exist precisely to fill that need. The idea that you’d go work at McDonald’s for funsies rather than out of economic necessity just doesn’t pass the sniff test.