[entityDev]

"equitY = "equal outcome" "inclusive model of education" = "we want to handicap top students" equivalent to participation badges We don't want feelings hurt, and we don't want people to feel that 'they're not good enough' because they didn't work as hard as the honors students do.

"Education officials don't like that some higher-achieving students are sorted into environments where they are more likely to succeed than their less-gifted peers, and would prefer to keep everyone officially at the same level to the greatest extent possible" So cut out all the variance, flatten the peaks, normalize the median, who cares if people are held back for the sake of 'equity'

Bland mediocrity in our world coming full force. What do some call it? Communism? Social Marxism?

[E-Reverance]

>>"we want to handicap top students"

Why do you think this is true?

[entityDev]

"The plan closely mirrors California's recent efforts to discourage students who are proficient at math from taking calculus any earlier than their classmates" . This is holding people back, stunting them, in other words putting a 'handicap' on them

[E-Reverance]

a) That doesn't prohibit them from learning calculus on their own

b) High-school is a terrible place to learn calculus (or anything). Online resources are often far better.

[Analemma_]

> High-school is a terrible place to learn calculus (or anything). Online resources are often far better.

This is pure, steaming bullshit you're just making up post facto to try and pretend your beliefs are consequence-free. I was never particularly strong at math-- nowhere near smart enough to get a math degree and so I went into engineering instead-- and I had two years of calculus (AB and BC) in high school, which was an enormous asset in engineering classes.

Single-variable calculus should be considered the floor of what the highest-achieving students can do in math by the end of high school, and here you're saying it shouldn't even be the ceiling.

[E-Reverance]

>>steaming bullshit you're just making up post facto

What are you saying? My Gr.11 chemistry teacher would literally play YouTube videos instead of teaching the material himself. My Physics teacher would make YouTube style videos (on a different platform) but she told us to also watch YouTube videos from other teachers because they were better!

>>floor of what the highest-achieving students can do in math by the end of high school

The highest-achieving students are often self-taught

[entityDev]

I wouldn't say it would stop anyone.. I just posted the quote to show the intent behind the action, which I find disgusting. The internet has been amazing for me and others to learn anything at anytime - there are no barriers for anyone to learn anything they want and if people are willing to put in the time and work, they can achieve anything.

[E-Reverance]

Is that literally their intent or is the writer assuming that is their intent? The publication is trying to push a narrative to appeal their audience, that is why that isn't quoted from the school board itself.

[entityDev]

"Education officials don't like that some higher-achieving students are sorted into environments where they are more likely to succeed than their less-gifted peers, and would prefer to keep everyone officially at the same level to the greatest extent possible."

[economusty]

Because they take away the forum for them to demonstrate their ability. Would you be against ranking students? Then when you apply to college or jobs how would I demonstrate my abilities?

[entityDev]

They would just let you in, I guess and pass you too, because they wouldn't want to hurt your feelings, or hold you back in any way... after all you deserve equal outcome with everyone else regardless of merit, skill or ability right? Scary stuff.

[klyrs]

Kids at the bottom need more help than kids at the top. That's Marxism? I thought it was common sense.

[mnouquet]

No, the Marxism is in having kids at the top being leveled down because of the kids at the bottom in the name of "equity" / equality of outcome.

[entityDev]

"Equity is a noble goal, but it should be obvious that taking away resources from smart teenagers in order to make them more similar to their lower-achieving peers is the height of idiocy."

[klyrs]

Nah, we saw what happened with No Child Left Behind. They replaced education with test-prep. The schools who performed poorly got their funding cut or closed altogether. The schools who performed well got more funding. They took resources from the kids who needed help, and gave them to the kids who were already succeeding.

[chickenpotpie]

That’s not what Marxism is

[klyrs]

The truth is that Marx is a boogeyman and it's easier to summon a century of propaganda than formulate sound criticism of a policy.

[entityDev]

Or many of us are just trying to find out a proper term and qauntify an ideaology that keeps rearing it's ugly head every few months or so using a different buzzword.

[mnouquet]

This ideology comes straight from the totalitarian outcome of the French revolution and its thinkers, eg. J.J. Rousseau, Robespierre, but also from the Catholic church itself. The Vatican "pezzonovante" preaching for poverty vows while sitting on solid gold shitters in luxury palaces build by slaves, not much different from modern day "celebrities" flying private jet to their luxury houses while preaching the "green new deal".

[chickenpotpie]

That’s not what communism is

[mnouquet]

You can argue as much as you want about what is theoretically is, but this is exactly how all practical attempts ended up, aiming the lower common possible denominator.

[chickenpotpie]

It’s not an argument about if communism is a viable system of government. Communism and educational practices have nothing in common.

[mnouquet]

I made no argument about viability, merely about facts.

Of course they do have something in common, indoctrinating the youth is the foundation of any regime.