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by chaorace 1892 days ago
I think the argument hinges on the technicality that it's not splicing itself into the host genome, so no chance of it becoming a retrovirus or something like that (in the event that the cell's lineage is not extinguished by the immune system).

I'm not a genetic engineer (what a time to be alive, eh?), but I'm pretty sure an adenovirus that did permanently modify cell DNA would be more like CRISPR, including the risks that entails (such as the risk of incorrectly splicing the host genome and potentially creating a precancerous mutation)
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laplacesdemon48 1892 days ago
I didn't want to put this into the parent comment because I didn't want to get just shoved into the "vax" vs. "anti-vax" bucket by the replies.

But there's a very well known case where DNA delivered via an adenovirus killed a teenager during a genetic engineering study: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC81135/

>> "No one realized that the vector itself might pose a risk"

I'm sure the dosage, type of adenovirus, and modifications to the adenovirus are different. But there are obviously still risks we don't know about.

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ghthor 1892 days ago
Don't look at things like that. Shut down your brain and take your pilllls.
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laplacesdemon48 1892 days ago
I want to be perfectly clear that I didn't bring this up to be alarmist. Jesse Gelsinger's death shed a lot of light on the risks involved with adenoviruses [1]. Those lessons have been carried forward.

>> An autopsy and subsequent studies indicated that his death was caused by a fulminant immune reaction (with high serum levels of the cytokines interleukin-6 and interleukin-10) to the adenoviral vector.

>> The data suggested that the high dose of Ad [adenoviral] vector, delivered by infusion directly to the liver, quickly saturated available receptors ... within that organ and then spilled into the circulatory and other organ systems including the bone marrow, thus inducing the systemic immune response.

He was injected with >3 × 10^13 viruses [2]. The typical J&J dose contain: low-dose (5x10^10 viral particles) or high-dose (1x10^11 viral particles) [3].

[1] https://www.uab.edu/ccts/images/steinbrook_Gelsinger_-_Oxfor...

[2] https://www.cell.com/molecular-therapy-family/molecular-ther...

[3] https://www.jwatch.org/na53085/2021/01/26/adenovirus-vectore...

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