[shaicoleman]

* Switched a couple of years ago from Firefox because of better dev tools.

* GPU acceleration doesn't work properly with Firefox/Linux (Dell G5 SE, Ryzen 4800H). Some sites I use daily, such as Google Maps, are painfully slow/laggy on Firefox.

* There's something about the Firefox's scrolling behaviour that I find really annoying.

* It works well across all platforms (Firefox on Android wasn't great last time I checked).

* It's the most tested browser. Many websites don't bother to test with Firefox.

* Chrome has the richest extension ecosystem.

* Some of the alternatives, such as Brave are not as trustworthy. Security is a bigger concern than privacy for me. Google has one of the best security track records.

* I'm heavily invested in the Google ecosystem, and I use dozens of their products. There's always a switching cost involved. Just changing the browser has a negligable effect on privacy if I'm constantly using the other Google services.

* Personally had overall an overwhelmingly positive experience over the last 15+ years I've been in the Google ecosystem. Google hasn't done anything to betray my trust so far.

[trog]

> * It works well across all platforms (Firefox on Android wasn't great last time I checked).

I've made Firefox my default browser on Android a couple of months ago and I'd say it's basically completely usable at this point.

I am running it with NoScript on, which is probably more of an exercise in masochism than anything else - more or less every site loads broken, of course, without JS these days, and a recent change to the Firefox addon interface means selectively enabling scripts to get it working is a multi-tap pain in the ass. I am probably going to switch to uBlock Origin (which someone here mentioned works now in FF mobile).

Performance wise I'd say it's probably a bit slower but still perfectly usable (running it on a Pixel 3 and a Motorola OneVision).

I enabled sync on it as well, with an account created just to sync between my two mobile devices, and it works fine.

[srfwx]

I wanted to switch. The (albeit limited amount of) extensions on Firefox for Android made it even more appealing. However it´s so unbearable slow that I quickly moved back to Chrome.

[NathanielK]

> There's something about the Firefox's scrolling behaviour that I find really annoying. Old versions didn't enable fractional scrolling by default. On Debian 9 XFCE, GTK3 apps and chromium both had it baked in.

Fractional scrolling is what lets you move just a pixel at a time with your trackpoint or trackpad scrolling. Maybe it has been patched since then, but at the time firefox needed a tweak. Afterwards trackpoint scrolling felt more precise than my W10 thinkpads.

[abecedarius]

Why do you see Brave as less trustworthy? I don't think the news has reached me.

[shaicoleman]

* Brave is derivative software. In case of security issues, there might be some lag from when the issue is fixed in Chrome to when it'll be fixed in Brave.

* Brave adds custom code that generally has less eyes on it.

* The business model is potentially problematic. Which can lead to incidents such as this one: [1]

* I don't know how good are Brave's security development and operational practices.

* Trust is something that is built over time. Brave hasn't been around so long, so doesn't have an established security track record.

1. https://www.theverge.com/2020/6/8/21283769/brave-browser-aff...

[0-_-0]

I believe Brave removes a lot of the telemetry and tracking code from Chromium, so I consider it more trustworthy.

[MikeUt]

You don't consider tracking your location against your explicit settings a betrayal? Or the pushing of AMP?

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/aug/13/google-lo...

[shaicoleman]

I've enabled the Timeline feature in Google Maps, which records everywhere I go. The benefit I get out of that feature outweighs the privacy concerns for me.

Since I use Google as my main search engine, Google already knows what I've clicked on, so in that case AMP is just an annoyance, not a privacy concern.

Google spent enormous efforts to make the internet fast (Chrome, V8, QUIC, SPDY & HTTP/2, BBR, TLS 1.3, etc.) I will give them the benefit of the doubt that they developed AMP for performance reasons and not for tracking reasons.

I'm personally less concerned about the recording of the data, than the security of the data. Leaks due to security incomptence (e.g. the Facebook leak) seem like a much bigger imminent threat to me.

[CarelessExpert]

> I'm personally less concerned about the recording of the data, than the security of the data. Leaks due to security incomptence (e.g. the Facebook leak) seem like a much bigger imminent threat to me.

This reminds me of an old joke: it's not the fall that kills you; it's the sudden stop at the end.

You wouldn't have to worry about leaks if they didn't collect the data in the first place.

[MikeUt]

So Google never betrayed your trust because they simply haven't needed to - you gave them everything willingly.