[JackMorgan]

I prefer my Palm phone[0]. It is so tiny I can't really DO anything with it unless it is a legit emergency. But when I do need it, there is wifi, cell, browser, google maps, and gps. The "life mode" is fantastic, no calls or notifications at all until you unlock the screen. Combined with a really short battery life when the screen is on, it is the perfect daily driver for me and my outdoors lifestyle. Also charges in like 15 minutes.

However, I have a regular mega phone with wifi only for lounging on the sofa, so I still have that problem when I'm at home :/

[0] https://palm.com/pages/product

[superkuh]

I wish there was a tiny 4G LTE phone with the same form as mid-2000s nokia: a screen just big enough to read texts on and most of the space occupied by physical buttons for dialing. Preferably with a firmware that is never expected to be updated.

[rakoo]

I think you still want an OS that is updated, if only for security reasons.

I'm using a Nokia 2720 Flip (https://phonesstorekenya.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/Noki...), a phone from a line of those old-time phones: big physical buttons, 4 directional keys. It runs KaiOS (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KaiOS) a recent OS that targets low-end "dumbphones" but still gives them modern functionalities. Most are unneeded in the context of the thread (Facebook, Ok Google) but some might be useful (there's Whatsapp if you really need it, emails)

There's a list of devices that are sold with it in the wiki page. It's primarily targeted at emergent markets but you definitely can buy them. Bonus: because they're simple, they're cheaper

[jjav]

> I think you still want an OS that is updated, if only for security reasons.

The trick is to make it simple enough there is nothing to update. I still have and use my 2006 Motorola Razr (also have a Palm phone). Of course the razr doesn't get updates but there's nothing to update. It can't run any external code, it can't connect to anything and no sensitive data ever enters or exits it. So, it's the perfect phone.

I'd pay anything for a new phone just like the Razr but with 4G or later, zero additional features. Only reason I also have the Palm phone is that 2G doesn't work everywhere anymore so I need a backup.

[superkuh]

Thanks! That Nokia 2720 Flip looks pretty decent. It's certainly the best I've seen so far. It's too bad it runs a full featured operating system and the applications are web/js based. That's a no go for me.

[rakoo]

To be honest as a user you don't see the difference with 2000s-era featurephones: the UX is the same (same kind of menus, same D-pad navigation, same slowness here and there ...). You don't have any idea it's all a bunch of javascript files; it's not like you have ad-ridden bloated sluggish websites.

As a user I don't believe it matters that much what OS or what language you're using as long as it's stable and functional. KaiOS definitely fits the bill

[aidenn0]

If that only had enough storage for my music and a fingerprint unlock, I'd get it. Really even just a fingerprint unlock would be enough. I can't stand face unlock.

[atommclain]

Check out the Jelly 2 https://www.unihertz.com/jelly-2.html https://www.pcmag.com/reviews/unihertz-jelly-2

[aidenn0]

That looks amazing... Thanks!

[JackMorgan]

I just use the regular swipe code, frankly I'm not opening it that many times a day anyway, I think it's a feature not a bug.

[icy]

Is it possible to run a more free OS on it? I don't really want all that Google crap.

[jbaber]

This looks great! I was a little worried about the Jelly2.