[superkuh]

I wish there was a tiny 4G LTE phone with the same form as mid-2000s nokia: a screen just big enough to read texts on and most of the space occupied by physical buttons for dialing. Preferably with a firmware that is never expected to be updated.

[rakoo]

I think you still want an OS that is updated, if only for security reasons.

I'm using a Nokia 2720 Flip (https://phonesstorekenya.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/Noki...), a phone from a line of those old-time phones: big physical buttons, 4 directional keys. It runs KaiOS (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KaiOS) a recent OS that targets low-end "dumbphones" but still gives them modern functionalities. Most are unneeded in the context of the thread (Facebook, Ok Google) but some might be useful (there's Whatsapp if you really need it, emails)

There's a list of devices that are sold with it in the wiki page. It's primarily targeted at emergent markets but you definitely can buy them. Bonus: because they're simple, they're cheaper

[jjav]

> I think you still want an OS that is updated, if only for security reasons.

The trick is to make it simple enough there is nothing to update. I still have and use my 2006 Motorola Razr (also have a Palm phone). Of course the razr doesn't get updates but there's nothing to update. It can't run any external code, it can't connect to anything and no sensitive data ever enters or exits it. So, it's the perfect phone.

I'd pay anything for a new phone just like the Razr but with 4G or later, zero additional features. Only reason I also have the Palm phone is that 2G doesn't work everywhere anymore so I need a backup.

[superkuh]

Thanks! That Nokia 2720 Flip looks pretty decent. It's certainly the best I've seen so far. It's too bad it runs a full featured operating system and the applications are web/js based. That's a no go for me.

[rakoo]

To be honest as a user you don't see the difference with 2000s-era featurephones: the UX is the same (same kind of menus, same D-pad navigation, same slowness here and there ...). You don't have any idea it's all a bunch of javascript files; it's not like you have ad-ridden bloated sluggish websites.

As a user I don't believe it matters that much what OS or what language you're using as long as it's stable and functional. KaiOS definitely fits the bill