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by sudosysgen 1898 days ago
Crusader Kings III has you live on as your daughter/son when you die.

As there is no adoption mechanic, same-sex relationships will lead to a game over unless you are one of the few countries that can use the House Seniority mechanic.

So I guess they never got around to implementing adoption.

Banning though...? That was weird.

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> So I guess they never got around to implementing adoption.

If you think about this, it seems pretty obvious the reason they didn’t include adoption was that it’s overpowered. The CK series is all about managing dynasties, so the randomness of reproduction is a major game mechanic, one of the primary sources of problems and challenges. Adoption would totally negate all of that.

Like, if Henry VIII could just have adopted a son, his whole story would have been so much more straightforward! :)

(None of which really justifies the Paradox response, of course, since adoption isn’t necessary for having same-sex marriages (even player ones) and not losing.)

It's the same reason as adoption.

You have the ability to arrange marriages as King or Queen. Just as if you could adopt, you could dilute the power of your enemies by arranging same-sex marriages that can have no legal heir.

They could make adoption produce a weaker claim to the title, with greater risk of usurpers leading a rebellion. I think this mechanic could be balanced and would add realism (it happened in history).
It's also something that could be restricted by culture. In some cultures, adopting your heir is a normal, everyday thing, but in others, blood is all that matters.
To be generous, I would presume the banning was because he uploaded a "hack" that changes the binary of the game, and that's not allowed. There's probably a clause in the ToS that says no reverse engineering is allowed.

But I look forward to the woke brigade assuming the devs hate the LGBT community, and showing up with virtual pitchforks... /s (Disclaimer: I support the struggles of the LGBT community, but I do have a problem with stupid extremist unthinking zealots, and there seems to be plenty of them everywhere.)

> Crusader Kings III has you live on as your daughter/son when you die.

No, you play on as your heir, which may be your uncle or some distant relative. This may even be your liege.

Only if they’re of the same house, otherwise your dynasty ends and it’s game over.
Wait, is this something they changed between II and III? Because in II, if you die with no children, but you have a brother, your brother inherits, even if you don't have Seniority. You only Game Over if your heir doesn't have your last name.

(also, there is the possibility your character will cheat, sire a bastard, and then have the bastard legitimized)

It wouldn't be the first time in game or in real life where a homosexual ruler has performed their royal duties and conceived an heir, then there are options to legitimize bastards.