[nbzso]

Stop with visual art nonsense. Read "20 years". If you have assumption that in this time I don't know the difference, I am sorry. It happens that some of us have managed and created real products, not some figma mockups.

Your design structure will be affected by dark patterns soon or a later. I think that you don't have enough experience to comment on the situation at all. Marketing will have access to your design process eventually. Then we will speak again.

[cercatrova]

Not sure what you're implying, I've created and sold "real products" to the tune of millions of dollars in revenue. I think I have "enough experience to comment on the situation." Weird to have such an accusatory tone when speaking on HN.

[nbzso]

Sorry for my reaction. It is direct result of your assumption about me and my professional expertise. Visual language is the smallest of the problems in design today. Thats why I have a term for todays designers - Decorators. When your role as a designer is limited to visual language - your results are just another "fancy dress" to be thrown away in the next product iteration.