[cercatrova]

Not sure what you're implying, I've created and sold "real products" to the tune of millions of dollars in revenue. I think I have "enough experience to comment on the situation." Weird to have such an accusatory tone when speaking on HN.

[nbzso]

Sorry for my reaction. It is direct result of your assumption about me and my professional expertise. Visual language is the smallest of the problems in design today. Thats why I have a term for todays designers - Decorators. When your role as a designer is limited to visual language - your results are just another "fancy dress" to be thrown away in the next product iteration.