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by bsanr2 1973 days ago
IIRC that took a Matrix-style war that humanity just barely won, so I don't think there's much hope among writers that we get to a post-tech universe without breaching the brane of cataclysm, seeing machine-borne oblivion on the other side, and pulling our heads back just in time (or perhaps an instant later...).
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floren 1973 days ago
> IIRC that took a Matrix-style war that humanity just barely won

Only in the terrible prequels written by Frank Herbert's idiot son, who decided that a rejection of machines replacing humans = literal Terminators.

One of the more interesting things about the Butlerian Jihad is that in the end, without thinking machines, they instead turned humans into machines.

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lstodd 1972 days ago
> One of the more interesting things ...

Yes, and this is often overlooked.

The question if we should turn machines into humans or vice versa, and that there is no third option.

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bsanr2 1972 days ago
The third option is coexistence, though this too is something writers seem to be bearish on (Egan's Diaspora gives it a bit of consideration before simply killing off most organic life with a gamma ray burst, which I found somewhat cynical and or even spiteful, given the timing).
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