[mdoms]

I'd suggest you have a look at how policing is done outside of USA. A raid on someone's home is almost never justified - it would take highly exceptional circumstances to make a "normal" police force perform like that.

[overscore]

Raids are common in almost every European country - which in general have "normal" police forces - where the police believe someone might destroy evidence.

[trasz]

Only if the charges are heavy enough, and even then it usually happens in civilized way, not like SWAT.

[overscore]

It happens in Ireland all the time for personal amounts of drugs. They are generally unarmed raids unless it's a gangland case, though.

[syshum]

>>It happens in Ireland

hmm

>>They are generally unarmed raids

So then does not happen all the time in Ireland

You should really look into how the US conducts "raids" even when there is no "gangland" case involved.

They have one procedure for all raids, and it very militaristic, they are always armed, and it is ALWAYS excessive and violent.

What you are calling a "raid" in Ireland would not be what we in the US called a Raid which is very specific activity of police

[overscore]

Different threat models, but a raid is a raid.

Just like an arrest is an arrest, even though in the US it will necessarily involve firearms and in Ireland, it almost never will.

[mdoms]

> a raid is a raid

Nonsense. There's a world of difference between a couple of cops knocking on your door and a full squad of fully armed, fully armoured militarised faux-soldiers busting down your door and threatening to shoot you, your family and your pets - and often following through on those threats.