[songshuu]

(With tongue planted firmly in cheek) Poor Gab. They were just too early to market.

In all seriousness though, it will be very interesting to see where things go with 'alt' services and whether or not this will just mean screencaps and reposts in the established publishers.

[slovette]

edit I’m off topic to your intention, I know. But I think still worth highlighting the behavior. No offense meant. :)

While definitely catering to it due to the nature of the platforms intentions, I think it may be going to far to just classify a platform like Parlor as “alt”.

It attracted an ‘alt’ crowd due to it trying to be a purist in free speech, which I think on the surface is something we all think we want.

The real conversation here is that we are learning as a society that “free speech” does need governance and it’s going to be a long violent road to defining what that actually means.

“Freedom” in the sense our lazy minds have generally defined it, has failed. Not to say that’s a bad thing, but we’re still in a time of our evolution where just that very sentence sounds as evil as the devil himself.

Our next 100 years is going to be tumultuous and we should all have some apprehension, even if it’s 80% right, perpetuating the same lazy thinking that Has resulted in a future that is guaranteed to make the future of our kids a major struggle.

All this. All of what’s going on now... it makes me sad to know that the ease my life has enjoyed so far is not the same future for the ones I love the most in this world.

This is all a VERY BIG DEAL. It’s not just a headline deserving no more than a lazy label. We should treat it and discuss it as such.

[thomastjeffery]

Sometimes the most important thing about a room is it's occupants.

Whether intentional or not, Parler is a place for right wing American politics. Unless they do something to attract different discourse, that's what it will continue to be.

[getlawgdon]

" I think it may be going to far to just classify a platform like Parlor as “alt”." ---Only been 4 days and your comment had aged atrociously. Not only is it alt, it's far-right radicalized alt.

[erulabs]

Well said! However toxic parlor is, I think there is some danger in painting it as radically right or alt right or whatever term. Someone just has to pull up their homepage and only slightly avoid critical thought to come to the conclusion that freedom of speech and anti-censorship is somehow a radical right wing value - which could not be further from the poli-sci meaning of right/left WRT hierarchies.

> even if it’s 80% right, perpetuating the same lazy thinking (sic) has resulted in a future that is guaranteed to make the future of our kids a major struggle.

That is extraordinarily well put.

[tracker1]

I didn't really do much with my Parler account.. mostly because engagement isn't really there yet.

I'm personally very free speech oriented, but that ends where the legality of speech ends. Insight to violence, and I think doxing should also be illegal or censored.

I think the problems come in a couple forms. First, the best way to combat bad ideas is to bring them to light, not ridicule, persecution or isolation which will only serve to instill a victim mentality which will sew more problematic outcomes. In the end, the calls to excise those that have differing opinions, views or ever did can only serve to make things worse, not better.

When discourse is no longer an option, violence is largely inevitable. It's when people feel they no longer have a voice that these things happen.

Conspiracy theory or not, when the media, congress and so many just dismissed a huge portion of the population, it was bound to end this way... bouncing Parler off apple and google stores, combined with the cleaning house actions of Facebook and Twitter will only serve to escalate problems, not resolve them.

I don't agree with the violence, I didn't agree with it for the better part of the past year when it was far left activists, I don't agree with it now. The only thing I will say is the contrast in response is a bit hypocritical on a lot of high profile individuals.

[ajsnigrutin]

> I'm personally very free speech oriented, but that ends where the legality of speech ends. Insight to violence, and I think doxing should also be illegal or censored.

But twitter is full of that, and they even allow it, if the targets are "right" (as in "not wrong").

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/clarissajanlim/teen-nam...

doxxing (for the "right" reason)

#killallmen tranding on twitter.... and allowed, and in general a lot of violent calls against a few "unprotected groups of people"

I'm not against a striclty moderated social network (="kid safe"), if you treat #killalmen and #killallwomen the same (and all other examples), and marketing it as such. But choosing a side, and removing only the others sides posts, while leaving the ones you agree with up, is a bad thing for everyone.

Sites like reddit might be even worse, where everyone can create a subreddit, and only some get banned ( https://www.reddit.com/r/WatchRedditDie/comments/dtqb29/rfra... ).

[Bigjohn7777]

I think the MeWe platform is a lot easier for communication between members.

[x86_64Ubuntu]

HN really needs to quit with being overly dramatic. HN and other right leaning userbases are desperately trying to turn this into some momentus civil rights movement, but it makes absolutely no sense.

[dmode]

I don’t understand the point of Parler. What happened to 4chan / 8chan etc ?

[pie_flavor]

4chan isn't social media, it's a vortex of shitposting. It's entirely anonymous messages, with no recognizable faces, even pseudonymous ones. The replacement of social media like Twitter has to be done with something that provides most of the same features, like Parler. A 4chan-looking skin over the whole thing would be possible, but wouldn't accomplish much.