[dukeofdoom]

Well thats the problem, the suits were dismissed out of hand. Very little evidence presented. Despite something like 1000 people swore affidavits of violations. They should have taken the cases and heard the evidence. Foremost, I blame the supreme court, it chickened out from hearing the Texas Lawsuit, which was about the state Governors changing the election rules on unilaterally.

If you look at the spikes in vote counts on some of these graphs, its more than enough to warrant a hearing .

Now the people have lost faith in the courts.

[hobs]

No, it wasn't the problem, and you are willfully or blindly misinterpreting what happened.

The complete lack of evidence and lack of anything but witness testimony was the first stage - as soon as any witness was interviewed it became immediately clear that there was in fact, no evidence at all.

Repeating this "things were dismissed out of hand" meme is true only in the sense that if a man came into court and said he was king of america he would also be given very little space to waste the courts time.

[dukeofdoom]

Pennsylvania had 200,000 more votes than voters. What do you mean no evidence? Still no good explanation.

Since this is probably going to get flagged, like my previous post. This is what was entered into the record, during the objections yesterday in the joint session of congress. I stayed up watching it. So I'm not making this up.

[jpsalm]

Maybe, just maybe, you are being lied to:

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/pennsylvania-205000-votes/

[dukeofdoom]

This is just trying to hand wave the discrepancy away with more votes are still the be counted. Its admitting its true, but

“a few counties have not completed uploading their vote histories,”

And the other explanation is a hypothetical explanation of over or under votes. No proof that this was actually the case here.

[aw1621107]

> Its admitting its true

How is the statement from the Pennsylvania Department of State admitting that Rep. Ryan's claim is correct?

The problem is that there's an implicit assumption in Rep. Ryan's claim that the SURE numbers are complete and represent the actual number of voters who actually voted. If a few counties have not completed uploading their vote histories, then that implicit assumption is invalidated, thereby invalidating the rest of the claim.

> And the other explanation is a hypothetical explanation of over or under votes. No proof that this was actually the case here.

The burden of proof is on Rep. Ryan to show that the over- and under-voting in 2020 is nefarious/fraudulent/malicious. Merely saying that over- and under-voting exists is not sufficient to show something is wrong; one also needs to show that such a thing does not happen in "clean" elections. Pennsylvania is merely pointing out the gap in the analysis here.

Edit: Added missing word

[jpsalm]

Do you hear yourself? I assume you are a rational person.

Why wouldn't you expect the count of votes entered into a system to be off before everything is entered into the system? Of course it's off.

Hell, why not just launch this claim on Nov 10 and say that the count is off by millions of votes? It's a braindead argument.

[netsharc]

See sibling reply, your purported evidence just went up in a puff of smoke.

Although I have a feeling you'd rather wave your hand and say "Aah, Snopes, what do they know, and it's not concrete enough!".

The problem with the "1000's of people with sworn affidavits of violations" is, it seems their understanding what a violation is, are based on misinterpreting (deliberately or not) and wishful thinking. I've seen the videos of people commenting "Look at this security camera footage, they're taking boxes, and those boxes have fake ballots!", without even showing how he came to those conclusions. I could just as easily show a footage of a man walking into a building and claim it's a building where voting machines are stored and he's a hacker with a USB stick that will hack all the machines. I hope all the affidavits were looked at carefully before being dismissed, but it seems like the courts would have work until the sun burns out if it wants to look at every theory.

[nobody9999]

>Pennsylvania had 200,000 more votes than voters. What do you mean no evidence? Still no good explanation.

Just not true. In fact, there were nearly 7 million votes cast. The total number of registered voters in 2020 was just over 9 million[0].

[0] https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-afs:Content:9887147...

[Goronmon]

Despite something like 1000 people swore affidavits of violations.

Not sure why the number of affidavits is so important, and how many of these affidavits were from that form people were filling out a form on a website?

If you look at the spikes in vote counts on some of these graphs, its more than enough to warrant a hearing.

Assuming that "spikes" in a graph are proof of anything wrong at all, if the answer is "That's where a bunch of votes were added to the count." then what is the followup from there that necessitates a hearing of any kind?

[danenania]

You could easily get 1000 Americans to swear that Elvis is alive or they were abducted by aliens or just about anything really. Without corroborating evidence, affidavits are meaningless.

[dukeofdoom]

Not really, these were for the most part from election workers.

If would be more like dismissing UFO evidence from 1000 sworn affidavits from people that work at the Pentagon.

[danenania]

There are something like half a million election workers. They're just regular people. It wouldn't be hard to find 1000 of them who are willing to lie or can't distinguish fantasy from reality.

I'd imagine more than 1000 of them believe the earth is flat and/or was created 10,000 years ago.

[selimthegrim]

Do they allege coordination or irregularities?

[nobody9999]

What you're claiming just isn't true. You've been lied to. See the link below.

And don't take my word for it either. Look at the court documents yourself, then make up your own mind.

https://electioncases.osu.edu/2021/01/summary-of-post-electi...