Hacker News new | ask | show | jobs
by dukeofdoom 1986 days ago
Pennsylvania had 200,000 more votes than voters. What do you mean no evidence? Still no good explanation.

Since this is probably going to get flagged, like my previous post. This is what was entered into the record, during the objections yesterday in the joint session of congress. I stayed up watching it. So I'm not making this up.

3 comments

Maybe, just maybe, you are being lied to:

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/pennsylvania-205000-votes/

This is just trying to hand wave the discrepancy away with more votes are still the be counted. Its admitting its true, but

“a few counties have not completed uploading their vote histories,”

And the other explanation is a hypothetical explanation of over or under votes. No proof that this was actually the case here.

> Its admitting its true

How is the statement from the Pennsylvania Department of State admitting that Rep. Ryan's claim is correct?

The problem is that there's an implicit assumption in Rep. Ryan's claim that the SURE numbers are complete and represent the actual number of voters who actually voted. If a few counties have not completed uploading their vote histories, then that implicit assumption is invalidated, thereby invalidating the rest of the claim.

> And the other explanation is a hypothetical explanation of over or under votes. No proof that this was actually the case here.

The burden of proof is on Rep. Ryan to show that the over- and under-voting in 2020 is nefarious/fraudulent/malicious. Merely saying that over- and under-voting exists is not sufficient to show something is wrong; one also needs to show that such a thing does not happen in "clean" elections. Pennsylvania is merely pointing out the gap in the analysis here.

Edit: Added missing word

Do you hear yourself? I assume you are a rational person.

Why wouldn't you expect the count of votes entered into a system to be off before everything is entered into the system? Of course it's off.

Hell, why not just launch this claim on Nov 10 and say that the count is off by millions of votes? It's a braindead argument.

See sibling reply, your purported evidence just went up in a puff of smoke.

Although I have a feeling you'd rather wave your hand and say "Aah, Snopes, what do they know, and it's not concrete enough!".

The problem with the "1000's of people with sworn affidavits of violations" is, it seems their understanding what a violation is, are based on misinterpreting (deliberately or not) and wishful thinking. I've seen the videos of people commenting "Look at this security camera footage, they're taking boxes, and those boxes have fake ballots!", without even showing how he came to those conclusions. I could just as easily show a footage of a man walking into a building and claim it's a building where voting machines are stored and he's a hacker with a USB stick that will hack all the machines. I hope all the affidavits were looked at carefully before being dismissed, but it seems like the courts would have work until the sun burns out if it wants to look at every theory.

>Pennsylvania had 200,000 more votes than voters. What do you mean no evidence? Still no good explanation.

Just not true. In fact, there were nearly 7 million votes cast. The total number of registered voters in 2020 was just over 9 million[0].

[0] https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-afs:Content:9887147...