[danans]

> Personally I think the category "employee" should be forbidden. It is a pure social construct.

Don't know where you are, but in the US, the category of employee has different tax implications for both the individual and the employer. In addition, depending on the industry and role, employee status is often correlated with significantly better benefits.

[antisoeu]

It's still a social construct - all the laws, even nations, are social constructs. I'm saying there should be no special benefits for employees.

[danans]

> It's still a social construct - all the laws, even nations, are social constructs.

So? Social constructs have a lot of teeth in the real world, and always have. Wishing them away won't have any effect.

> I'm saying there should be no special benefits for employees

So are you arguing that those benefits (i.e. health insurance) should be universal? Or are you making the argument that only those in a position to pay should have access to those things?

[antisoeu]

"Wishing them away won't have any effect."

Laws and social constructs can be changed.

As for health insurance (as an example), how do you justify giving health insurance to employees, but not to other people, like self-employed people?

[arcticbull]

I don't which is why I support socialized single-payer medicine.

However, to address your question more directly, contractors are employees as well. It's not the job site's responsibility to provide health insurance, it's their employers. Contractors still have employers, you know.

[danans]

> Contractors still have employers, you know.

This is true for vendors, but direct 1099 contractors are self employed.

[arcticbull]

I would argue that they still have an employer, themselves, who is responsible for providing that health insurance.

[arcticbull]

And I'm saying there should be no special benefits to management :)

[antisoeu]

There aren't any.

[arcticbull]

Can managers not fire people?

[tengbretson]

A manager can terminate a work contract. In most parts of the world, the worker on the other side of this contract also has that same ability to terminate the work contract, so I'm not sure if I would consider that a "special benefit."

[nec4b]

Can you fire your plumber, dentist, lawyer,...?