[pathseeker]

>Except that as we keep trying to point out, 90% of EV charging occurs overnight at home

Most people don't buy vehicles for 90% of the use-cases. They buy something that does everything they normally expect a car to do, which includes a long road trip every year or so. Maybe driving to a favorite campground 200 miles away, etc.

The reason people keep bringing these scenarios up is due to the fact that electric cars are terrible for these cases. Nobody is suggesting they can't be used for daily commutes.

Right now electric cars are for people who can afford to also own an ICE or rent an ICE for road trips (or who don't like road trips at all).

[hinkley]

Just look at the number of pickup trucks there are, with empty (even pristine) beds. Nobody is hauling stuff most of the time, but they got a vehicle that can.

[rootusrootus]

I think EVs make a great second car. I drive a Tesla, my wife drives a Bolt, and we have an F250 for towing the travel trailer, hauling household stuff around, or going somewhere that charging infrastructure is going to be inadequate (haven't really run into that yet, but the pickup is our catch-all). I can't see going back to ICE cars as daily drivers, but it'll be quite a while before we don't have at least one in our household. Especially as long as we continue to own the RV.

[carrolldunham]

so, to save the environment, everyone get two cars.

[yholio]

Or, rather: a small enthusiast minority gets two cars, generates the critical mass required to build charging infrastructure etc., then everybody can switch directly to an electric when it becomes convenient for them.

[rootusrootus]

I would use a lot more fossil fuel if I used the pickup as a daily driver. Getting an EV as a second car is the sensible choice.

[iso1210]

It's an emotional decision, but even with that - well under 20% of vehicles sold in the US in 2019 are trucks

https://www.goodcarbadcar.net/2019-us-vehicle-sales-figures-...

[cmrdporcupine]

Yep, well, this is why I drive a Volt and not a Tesla. The EV portion of it covers 90% of my use cases, and then I have the ICE to fall back on if I need it, which I do once in a while, mostly for ski or camping trips to places that will probably only ever get charging infrastructure in like... 20 yeras.

Too bad GM killed it from their line-up.

[gundmc]

The Honda Clarity plugs the hole left by the Volt pretty nicely. And last I checked it's still eligible for the full federal phev rebate.