[hypervisorxxx]

Yeh and to think society rewards extroverts as leaders but often introverts make the best leaders as in they take long periods of time to think alone and often avoid many pitfalls by doing so instead of moving fast and breaking everyone and everything along the way.

[NoOneNew]

>introverts make the best leaders

To be a good leader, you have to be willing to confront AND navigate conflict within a group setting in a productive manner that ultimately achieves an agreed upon goal. One of the defining traits of an introvert is avoiding conflict. Thus, no, introverts don't INHERENTLY make good leaders. If you've ever dealt with even a moderately diverse group of individuals due to their capabilities (not in the sense of level of skill, but range of skills), you'd know that the motivations of individuals vary wildly. Even if they are similar, they're oddly unique in their own ways at their own times. Regardless of your unicorn-fart fantasies, extrovert personalities are better equipped to handle groups with varying motivations to achieve the same goal. Not to say introverts can't be good or even great leaders. To name one, Eisenhower was an introvert and he is regarded as one of the greatest leaders of the 20th century for a multitude of reasons. Leadership takes intent and purposeful practice/training for them to achieve. The absolution concept that they're the "best" just means you've never been in even a mild range of real world team projects. You would have seen many easily fall apart in the midst of dealing with somewhat strenuous situations. It's an easier absolution that extroverts make the best leaders, yet even that is untrue. It just takes extroverts less practice to achieve "great" than it does for introverts since they already possess a lot of the skill sets that introverts are lacking. Ultimately, leaders are made, not born.

[thotsBgone]

> One of the defining traits of an introvert is avoiding conflict.

No it's not. That's one of the defining traits of disagreeableness, which is known to be independent from introversion.

[melenaos]

You are right, i have seen my introvert boss, taking verbal damage, hold his anger and his words for 5 seconds and unleash a devastating speech that made the other guy walk away.

He also took leading part in many high management meetings without any social fear.

I am about the middle and i hated working under an extrovert manager, all chatting, big words, self promotion stories, useless long meetings, fake friendly attitude that turned into professional talk when shit got real etc.

[zs234465234165]

100%

The difference between an introvert and an extrovert is best displayed when there is a lack of incentive.

Introverts can readily step into an extroverted role when it's necessary and aligns with their goals.

Introverts are not going to toast at a large party without good reason(improving speaking skills, impressing a guest, etc) whereas an extrovert might give a toast for fun.

Does your blood settle in the top or lower part of your head?

[feanaro]

> One of the defining traits of an introvert is avoiding conflict.

Where do you get this idea from? The introversion/extraversion scale is commonly taken to represent whether (and to which extent) one is energized by solitude and drained by socialization and vice versa. It has nothing to do with conflict avoidance.

As evidence for this, check out the Big Five personality model, one of the golden standards on this topic. There conflict avoidance is taken to be mostly related to the agreeableness factor, which is orthogonal to the extraversion factor.

[OliverGilan]

What's really interesting is that it's not so clear cut. Introverted leaders tend to outperform when they lead extroverts and extroverted leaders tend to outperform when they lead introverts[1].

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quiet:_The_Power_of_Introverts...

[noizejoy]

It’s what some would call putting together a team that complements each other.

[mirko22]

When you start talking about introverts and extroverts you would first have to state to which ideas behind those concepts you subscribe to. If Jungian then you can be both introvert and extrovert in the same time.

If by wikipedia then you think they are exclusive and might even think that introverts are people who just want to sit at home.

Not wanting too much company can also be associated with highly sensitive people and not necessarily introverts. About 30% of highly sensitive people are in fact extroverted.

And there is no single trait or concept that makes someone a good leader but rather a mix of lot different psychological and biological setups.

[throwaway50203]

> society rewards extroverts as leaders

It's even worse: some societies reward quick thinking and shun deep thinking.

Mostly the English-speaking societies, people can even become unsettled or giggle if they see someone staring at a wall, deep in though.