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by aniro 2044 days ago
Exactly. They whipped the mob into a frenzy with lies and bullshit so they could use its power to get what they wanted. Then they lost control of it.

It is the loss of control they regret, not whipping it up in the first place.

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I would love to see a poll where this comment gets presented without context and people have to decide what group it is describing.
The web of deceit surrounding the Republican Party at this point is undeniable unless you have chosen to abandon reality entirely at the point it chafes your opinion.
What exactly is the big nefarious power in the background whipping the liberal mob into a frenzy?

I get that you want to come off as an enlightened centrist here but you’re gonna have to be specific. What’s the liberal Koch brothers and what’s the liberal Tea Party?

George Soros and BLM?

The funny thing is that "whipping the liberal mob into a frenzy" is a literal thing that happened this year that resulted in riots, looting, civil unrest and a full on "autonomous zone" in Seattle.

To my knowledge, the only real harm the Tea Party accomplished was rolling back environmental/emissions regulations.

So you don't think those riots, looting, civl unrest etc had anything to do with the militarization of police and the lack of accountability of law enforcement and public officials in general? Not a response to the George Floyd incident or the countless other incidents that are shockingly similar? Just a random media driven mob out there protesting things that don't actually reflect reality?

Because that is what a "whipped up mob" is. Not angry citizens demanding responsible and accountable law enforcement and action toward that end from their elected officials and unelected police forces.

Just to get this straight, you believe the BLM movement was started by George Soros, but it grew out of his control?

I... hm. I don’t think that quite sounds right.

LOL George Soros. It's like hearing someone who still believes in the Tooth Fairy.
Reminds me of the Democrats not condemning mob violence until it started to hurt them in the polls.
How much of that was spin and framing against the Democrats or did anyone seriously believe that they were in favour of mob violence?

New rule: if you don't condemn child rape every Monday morning then until you do it is assumed that you are in favour.

Tiny furors like the "who's wearing an American flag lapel pin" are is too often motivated by political opportunity rather than any real question of where the parties stand on topics. And yes, Democrats do it to Republicans as well, just generally not as frequently. Republicans seem to love their mostly meaningless and unsurprising performative doxologies.

>How much of that was spin and framing against the Democrats or did anyone seriously believe that they were in favour of mob violence?

Do you really think AOC et al are against it? I've seen so much left-wing justification of punching Nazis etc. that I'd be very surprised if there weren't at least a few Democratic politicians in agreement.

Ilhan Omar calls for complete dismantling of the Minneapolis police department around 1:30 in this vid: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aj3vdaC4F7c Yes, that's complete dismantling, none of this "redirect a bit of the funds" stuff which got retconned (watch the entire video for more examples). So I wouldn't put anything past her.

The Charles Koch was accused of "whipping up a mob" earlier in this thread, but whatever mob he "whipped up" was a very mild-mannered one which didn't light any fires. It seemed worthwhile to highlight the disparity.

I don't think this is a "tiny" furor. (As you illustrate, even if Democrats don't endorse violence, they are very willing to downplay it!) I recommend this video: https://twitter.com/mrctv/status/1297707698788728832

> And yes, Democrats do it to Republicans as well, just generally not as frequently.

Ha, the difference is not nearly so stark as you'd think.

> Republicans seem to love their mostly meaningless and unsurprising performative doxologies.

You need to update your views for today's political scene. These conditions were true up til around 2008. Since then, the Democrats are now the party that engages in the performative doxologies.

Need I remind you of all that tone-deaf BLM kneeling crap in DC? Or how about the mask mandates? The face masks are the Democrats' "American flag lapel pin."

The face masks are a public health prophylactic that works.

Arguments against spreading diseased aerosols based on politics or some personal liberty are simplistic and ignore physical reality.

Huh? I didn't say anything about the efficacy of wearing face masks. All I did was point out that:

1) there is a political party in the US, who are using the face mask issue to shame and politically attack another party.

2) this is a reversal of the roles these two political parties played just a decade and change earlier.

Liberals and conservatives will rarely condemn the violence of their pet terrorists. As far as violence is concerned, that's the problem with conservatives and liberals. They generally lend tacit support to violence against people they dislike. All with a wink, wink and a nudge, nudge.

That's why we end up with dead police who walk into ambushes, dead black guys who make the mistake of relaxing in their own apartments when lady cops burst in guns blazing, burned stores, dead little old ladies who go to bible studies while black, and dead walmart shoppers who made the mistake of being minority while looking for a San Antonio Spurs dart board at the wrong time.

Extremists are just dangerous people. We should really be bringing the hammer against all these groups wherever we find them, but again, they are protected by their patrons. So they walk the streets tatted and masked up waving around AR's because they know their benefactors will not allow our counter-terrorism units to do what military sense would demand in a sensible world.

Why do people in BLM protests keep getting arrested then?

And why did the FBI stop the kidnapping of a governor?

If this theory held true the republican federal government would be fine with right wing terrorists abducting democratic governors

Serious answer: The deep state. Really.

There are enough career civil servants out there that believe in the fundamentals of their roles that they keep the machinery of civilization turning along. I don't disagree with the parent's remarks at all - failure to condemn violent acts really is a both sides problem right now.