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by qPM9l3XJrF 2045 days ago
Reminds me of the Democrats not condemning mob violence until it started to hurt them in the polls.
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How much of that was spin and framing against the Democrats or did anyone seriously believe that they were in favour of mob violence?

New rule: if you don't condemn child rape every Monday morning then until you do it is assumed that you are in favour.

Tiny furors like the "who's wearing an American flag lapel pin" are is too often motivated by political opportunity rather than any real question of where the parties stand on topics. And yes, Democrats do it to Republicans as well, just generally not as frequently. Republicans seem to love their mostly meaningless and unsurprising performative doxologies.

>How much of that was spin and framing against the Democrats or did anyone seriously believe that they were in favour of mob violence?

Do you really think AOC et al are against it? I've seen so much left-wing justification of punching Nazis etc. that I'd be very surprised if there weren't at least a few Democratic politicians in agreement.

Ilhan Omar calls for complete dismantling of the Minneapolis police department around 1:30 in this vid: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aj3vdaC4F7c Yes, that's complete dismantling, none of this "redirect a bit of the funds" stuff which got retconned (watch the entire video for more examples). So I wouldn't put anything past her.

The Charles Koch was accused of "whipping up a mob" earlier in this thread, but whatever mob he "whipped up" was a very mild-mannered one which didn't light any fires. It seemed worthwhile to highlight the disparity.

I don't think this is a "tiny" furor. (As you illustrate, even if Democrats don't endorse violence, they are very willing to downplay it!) I recommend this video: https://twitter.com/mrctv/status/1297707698788728832

> And yes, Democrats do it to Republicans as well, just generally not as frequently.

Ha, the difference is not nearly so stark as you'd think.

> Republicans seem to love their mostly meaningless and unsurprising performative doxologies.

You need to update your views for today's political scene. These conditions were true up til around 2008. Since then, the Democrats are now the party that engages in the performative doxologies.

Need I remind you of all that tone-deaf BLM kneeling crap in DC? Or how about the mask mandates? The face masks are the Democrats' "American flag lapel pin."

The face masks are a public health prophylactic that works.

Arguments against spreading diseased aerosols based on politics or some personal liberty are simplistic and ignore physical reality.

Huh? I didn't say anything about the efficacy of wearing face masks. All I did was point out that:

1) there is a political party in the US, who are using the face mask issue to shame and politically attack another party.

2) this is a reversal of the roles these two political parties played just a decade and change earlier.

Liberals and conservatives will rarely condemn the violence of their pet terrorists. As far as violence is concerned, that's the problem with conservatives and liberals. They generally lend tacit support to violence against people they dislike. All with a wink, wink and a nudge, nudge.

That's why we end up with dead police who walk into ambushes, dead black guys who make the mistake of relaxing in their own apartments when lady cops burst in guns blazing, burned stores, dead little old ladies who go to bible studies while black, and dead walmart shoppers who made the mistake of being minority while looking for a San Antonio Spurs dart board at the wrong time.

Extremists are just dangerous people. We should really be bringing the hammer against all these groups wherever we find them, but again, they are protected by their patrons. So they walk the streets tatted and masked up waving around AR's because they know their benefactors will not allow our counter-terrorism units to do what military sense would demand in a sensible world.

Why do people in BLM protests keep getting arrested then?

And why did the FBI stop the kidnapping of a governor?

If this theory held true the republican federal government would be fine with right wing terrorists abducting democratic governors

Serious answer: The deep state. Really.

There are enough career civil servants out there that believe in the fundamentals of their roles that they keep the machinery of civilization turning along. I don't disagree with the parent's remarks at all - failure to condemn violent acts really is a both sides problem right now.