[HhE3334R7hf1lLF]

Having recently moved from a northern blue state to a southern red state, I have one foot in a very liberal social circle up north, and another in a very conservative social circle in the south. My friends in the north have already made up their minds that they won't accept a Trump-Pence victory. My friends in the south have likewise made up their minds that they won't accept a Biden-Harris victory. The two sides talk and think very similarly to each other, and they're making similar plans.

This will definitely be a popcorn.gif kind of election.

[zepto]

I am guessing that this is downvoted because it makes both sides look equally bad, and ‘bothsidesism’ is often considered problematic.

Can anyone comment on whether my guess is accurate?

[greenduck]

Didn't downvote, but outside of the internet this just doesn't correspond to my reality. Combine that with the perception of pushing a "both sides are bad" narrative makes it seem like a partisan statement used to justify any hatred towards the other side of the aisle.

[zepto]

Thanks - helps to confirm my guess.

[greenduck]

Maybe you're in a bubble? I work at one of the "liberal elite universities" if you believe the media rhetoric and nobody around me is just straight up ready to deny the election if their favorite team doesn't win.

Everybody I have contact with understands that it's a close race and isn't sure who is going to win. They understand that it is possible for Trump to win and not even that unlikely.

[HhE3334R7hf1lLF]

You:

> Maybe you're in a bubble?

Also you: > I work at one of the "liberal elite universities"

Well, there you go. There's your bubble.

[zepto]

We’re all in some kind of bubble. One way of mitigating that is to assume it to be true, and then take other people’s reports as if they are samples from other bubbles. You can then use these samples to expand your own view.

I have a friend who has one foot in very liberal circles and one in very conservative circles. In his experience people on both sides are going to accept the election result if their side loses.

I have another friend who works at an elite liberal university. The people around them understand it’s close race, and that Trump might actually win.

I personally know a democratic media strategist who disbelieves the polls and is expecting Trump to win.

People close to me who are centrist independents are going to vote for Biden, because they are worried about Trump undermining institutions and think the US needs allies, but are worried that the Democrats domestic policies might be so harmful that this. Ugh this end up being a mistake.