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by badRNG 2127 days ago
There has always seemed to be an antagonistic relationship between police unions and trade unions. Police unions are often disallowed membership in so-called "big tent" unions due to their perceived past and alleged ongoing role in union-busting. Since the early 20th century, there hasn't been a meaningful reconciliation between the movements (and often, the role of police in general is perceived to be inherently antagonistic to the goals of labor activists.)

It might be worth reading about how police performed aerial bombardment and gunned down union workers during the labor movement (late 19th, early 20th centuries) in the US, notably the Battle of Blair Mountain [1]. Even though this nears over a hundred years worth of distance, the effects ripple through today.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Blair_Mountain

2 comments

What a fantastic link! This era in America's history is so rich with amazing stories, yet hardly ever touched by Hollywood ..

I followed Mother Jones to Industrial Workers of the World, which necessitated a visit to American Federation of Labor, which led to Knights of Labor and Terence Powderly and the Haymarket Riot:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haymarket_Riot

Btw, just from the logos and the titles of AFL and KoL, I got the sense that they were masonic in origin. And sure enough, per wikipedia, "[t]he Catholic Church had opposed the unions as too influenced by rituals of freemasonry. The Knights of Labor removed the words "The Holy and Noble Order of" from the name of the Knights of Labor in 1882 and abandoned any membership rituals associated with freemasonry."

LOL at the hand-shaking execs in the logo of AFL. Life is truly stranger than fiction.

>What a fantastic link! This era in America's history is so rich with amazing stories, yet hardly ever touched by Hollywood ..

I can recommend watching The Molly Maguires https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Molly_Maguires_(film)

Thanks!
Gangs of New York is another great movie, and the second floor of the FDNY museum in SoHo is a real eye opener to the 19th century crossover between fire crews and gang culture.
Thanks! The bit about the gangs was +interesting. Found this:

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smithsonian-institution/early...

I challenge you to find a sector of society to whom police (and their unions) are not antagonistic.
Other police officers
As long as they stay quiet about any internal issues.
I don't think you've spoken with actual police officers much, there is huge divide between state police and local police in the US.
I don't think you've spoken with actual police officers much

I’m sorry you think that, you’d be wrong on the assumption though.

If you're going to take the time to respond to the throwaway portion of the comment, why not respond to the actual counterpoint which was the reason for the comment?
Didn’t feel like it. But thanks for asking
The 1%
Yeah, but the 0.01% is where the clout is.
most society sectors that happens to be outside America
ah, lazily sourced anecdotes presented as data, pinnacle hn

third image is already from 2014, not an impressive case density then, is it?

That's absurd. Your parent post said, "most society sectors that happens to be outside America". All it takes to disprove is a few examples. I showed you a search link to pages of them.

Don't be lazy, blaming others for an unscientific bias in your own post is a logical fallacy.

so one case e every four year average is enough to claim that all police is as antagonistic as USA's

sure.