[nogabebop23]

>> This is a blip. It could be a major blip

So if it's a 10 or 20 year "major" blip does that make it longer than "temporary"?

Locals tend to go to museums once or never, lots of places have good bars and restaurants and the idea of SF having a proximity to real nature is a joke. I guess time will tell if you, I or someone else is ultimately correct, but the pull of SF was the jobs above all else; if that's gone then I'd argue there are much better places to live for the amenities. NYC is in a similar boat - you move there for the people and what they bring when packing too many people in too small a physical space. This doesn't seem what most are looking for now or in the near/mid term.

[2arrs2ells]

Do you live in the Bay Area? Your take doesn’t match my experience at all...

* Most of my friends are members of one museum (or have season tickets to SHN/SFJazz/etc)

* Most of my friends go hiking in Marin or Big Basin or whenever at least once a month, and spend a weekend somewhere like Big Sur or Yosemite a couple times a year. Bay Area nature is unparalleled.

SF may be in a tough place for a while, but don’t underestimate why it’s special.

[redisman]

> Bay Area nature is unparalleled

Puget Sound and Denver metros might disagree

[VRay]

This is ridiculous. Basically every city in the USA is within a couple hours' drive of "amazing nature"

The only reason I live in the Bay Area is because my net worth goes up WAY more here per year than it does elsewhere.. If that changes, I'm out

[jimbob21]

Finally a truthful comment. Everybody goes there to make money, that's it. There's nothing wrong with that, so why do people still try to pretend that isn't the reason when out of view of their employers?

[ghaff]

Most working professionals live where they do for one of two reasons:

1.) Family/spouse

2.) Where they can get the best-paying job

If you offer most people 50% more money, and they aren't tied down by family obligations, they'll skip town for that new job in a heartbeat.

[hammock]

This is the difference between the SF of today and the SF of 10 years ago

[redisman]

Given remote work, you can literally move to a cabin right next to Yellowstone so yeah I agree this line of argumentation is not that compelling.

[hammock]

Chicago...(besides Lake michigan)

[odessacubbage]

shhhh don't tell them

[djrogers]

> and spend a weekend somewhere like Big Sur or Yosemite a couple times a year. Bay Area nature is unparalleled.

If you've gotta drive 4 hours to get there, it isn't 'Bay Area nature'... There are very few places in this vast and beautiful country that aren't 3-4 hours away from jaw-dropping scenery - in fact I doubt you could find a single one.

[tanjtanjtanj]

Dallas, Texas fits (or nearly fits) this description. Unless I've missed some area of Jaw-Dropping scenery that's more than a single attraction, it's 10+ hours to the natural beauty found in Arkansas or Colorado, and 4+ hours to get to the closest thing to it in Texas.

[gopi]

On the other hand, Dallas is the hub of 2 airlines so well connected. With the rent money you save you could afford to take multiple mini vacations a year!

[InitialLastName]

> in fact I doubt you could find a single one.

I have to assume that there's a place in Kansas/Nebraska somewhere in the Great Plains that you have to drive 4 hours to see anything other than fields.

[WWLink]

The pull of SF was never programming jobs lol.

[defnotashton2]

As an sf visitor, it's a bit of oasis, it's like 68f year around, beaches and sunny...

[ulfw]

Beaches???

[mjmj]

Chrissy field beach was amazing on Friday, whole family got sunburned and didn’t want to leave. Ocean beach is massive and awesome, great for bonfires. Both those are 10 min drives for us. Or head to one of multiple nudist beach just south of Pacifica or north Baker beach near the GG. I totally relate to SF being associated with beaches and ive been here 15 years now. We used to have to drive in over 1hr of LA traffic to go to the beach, don’t miss that.

[lcc]

Sure there are plenty of beaches, but most of the time they're cold and windy. On a typical day I wouldn't want to lie around in a bathing suit or swim.

Friday's weather was an exception and I'm glad you were able to enjoy it!