[2arrs2ells]

Do you live in the Bay Area? Your take doesn’t match my experience at all...

* Most of my friends are members of one museum (or have season tickets to SHN/SFJazz/etc)

* Most of my friends go hiking in Marin or Big Basin or whenever at least once a month, and spend a weekend somewhere like Big Sur or Yosemite a couple times a year. Bay Area nature is unparalleled.

SF may be in a tough place for a while, but don’t underestimate why it’s special.

[redisman]

> Bay Area nature is unparalleled

Puget Sound and Denver metros might disagree

[VRay]

This is ridiculous. Basically every city in the USA is within a couple hours' drive of "amazing nature"

The only reason I live in the Bay Area is because my net worth goes up WAY more here per year than it does elsewhere.. If that changes, I'm out

[jimbob21]

Finally a truthful comment. Everybody goes there to make money, that's it. There's nothing wrong with that, so why do people still try to pretend that isn't the reason when out of view of their employers?

[ghaff]

Most working professionals live where they do for one of two reasons:

1.) Family/spouse

2.) Where they can get the best-paying job

If you offer most people 50% more money, and they aren't tied down by family obligations, they'll skip town for that new job in a heartbeat.

[hammock]

This is the difference between the SF of today and the SF of 10 years ago

[redisman]

Given remote work, you can literally move to a cabin right next to Yellowstone so yeah I agree this line of argumentation is not that compelling.

[hammock]

Chicago...(besides Lake michigan)

[odessacubbage]

shhhh don't tell them

[djrogers]

> and spend a weekend somewhere like Big Sur or Yosemite a couple times a year. Bay Area nature is unparalleled.

If you've gotta drive 4 hours to get there, it isn't 'Bay Area nature'... There are very few places in this vast and beautiful country that aren't 3-4 hours away from jaw-dropping scenery - in fact I doubt you could find a single one.

[tanjtanjtanj]

Dallas, Texas fits (or nearly fits) this description. Unless I've missed some area of Jaw-Dropping scenery that's more than a single attraction, it's 10+ hours to the natural beauty found in Arkansas or Colorado, and 4+ hours to get to the closest thing to it in Texas.

[gopi]

On the other hand, Dallas is the hub of 2 airlines so well connected. With the rent money you save you could afford to take multiple mini vacations a year!

[InitialLastName]

> in fact I doubt you could find a single one.

I have to assume that there's a place in Kansas/Nebraska somewhere in the Great Plains that you have to drive 4 hours to see anything other than fields.