[lucideer]

> it’s completely absurd to assume that code hosting was without any cost involved at all

Noone in this thread is arguing this.

Your original post made some statements about services saving time, as matter-of-fact statements that are apparently self-evident. I replied saying that these statements are not necessarily self-evident nor always true.

It's possible that Github saves you 5hrs a week. This doesn't mean you can say that this is obvious and universal.

[dijit]

I’m not sure if you’re intentionally missing my point or if I’m ineffective at communicating it.

I’m saying that services that are like GitHub are ubiquitous because they save time, easily 5hrs a week- and creating them anew would cost more than those services do if you buy them as a user (gitlab enterprise or github “pro”)

You can argue the minutia of “this service” vs “that service” but at the end of the day those suite of things save time.

[lucideer]

I think I understand your point. And I disagree.

> I’m saying that services that are like GitHub are ubiquitous because they save time

Popular services are ubiquitous for many reasons, some of them based on actual value, some of them based on perceived value, and others based on things orthogonal to day-to-day value like organisational inertia, aspects of network effects, etc. They may save time for you. Others may have chosen the service for different reasons: either wise or ill-advised.

> easily 5hrs a week

Subjective. But also, more importantly, subject to error based on your metrics. How have you quantified time saved by Github?

> creating them anew would cost more than those services do if you buy them as a user (gitlab enterprise or github “pro”)

This is, I think, where you're missing my point. Of course creating them anew would cost more than those services do. That's not the question being asked here though. What's being discussed is whether using Github will save you time over not-using Github.

Not using Github does not necessarily mean maintaining an equivalent service itself, because that presupposes that the features provided by Github save you time as is. The only reason you would host an equivalent service yourself is if they definitely do, which isn't a certainty.

[dijit]

This is..

.. satire?

What do you propose as an alternative to github/gitlab/code hosting?

I can break down reasons for github/gitlab as a service being aggressive value, however I would be shot down with "but that's not reality, you should compare competitors!" as it was in this comment chain... So I'd love for you to pontificate on the point you're making.

[cooliosis]

Either pontificate doesn't mean what you think it means, or you're being an asshole.