[celticninja]

It's not unknown that taking on Russia stretched Nazi Germany's resources. However it is also known that between 1939 and 1941 Russia and Germany had an accord and were allies. That was until Germany invaded russia is 1941. So the German army that invaded russia in 1941 had already been fighting Britain and the allied forces for 2 years, significantly weakening them and stretching their resources.

[gdy]

"between 1939 and 1941 Russia and Germany had an accord and were allies"

That's false. Russia and Germany had a non-aggression pact. Also you should read about the Munich Agreement[0], that preceded the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact and clearly shown that no one was willing to fight Germany and protect Czechoslovakia besides the USSR.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Munich_Agreement

[sergeykish]

Can we agree that both Germany and USSR gained territories as result [1], [2]? And they were trade partners [3]? And, yes, France and UK helped that to happen.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_invasion_of_Poland

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occupation_of_the_Baltic_state...

[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German%E2%80%93Soviet_Credit_A...

[gdy]

The USSR gained so much needed strategic depth, the Germany gained Lebensraum.

Which country wasn't trading with Nazi Germany?

[sergeykish]

"Germany gained so much needed strategic depth" - somehow Germany evil, USSR not - flawed logic

[gdy]

You are welcome to present a Soviet equivalent of the Lebensraum concept.

[sergeykish]

Gulag [1], Purges [2], man made famine [3], restriction of movement [4], population as means for World Revolution [5], imperialism [6].

Bolsheviks were terrorists [7], the state evolved from terrorists organisation. It should be shamed just as we shame Fascists. Meanwhile in Russia Stalin popularity is record high [8].

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulag

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Purge

[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_famine_of_1932%E2%80%93...

[4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passport_system_in_the_Soviet_...

[5] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_revolution

[6] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_Empire

[7] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Terror

[8] https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-47975704

[celticninja]

You say potato...

[gdy]

You are entitled to your own opinion, but not to your own facts.

The fact is that the USSR and Germany signed a non-aggression pact, not a treaty of alliance. You can read the text [0] yourself and see that there is nothing resembling a war alliance.

[0] https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Molotov%E2%80%93Ribbentrop_Pa...

[eveningcoffee]

I clearly looks like an alliance to take over other countries.

https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Molotov%E2%80%93Ribbentrop_Pa...

They even divided Poland in a coordinated attack on two fronts.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German%E2%80%93Soviet_military...

It is not the name that matters but content and actions.

[sergeykish]

Oh, the start of the war was awful in so many aspects, there were no rights. Second Polish Republic was aggressive state [1], [2]. It partitioned Czechoslovakia with Germany and Hungary in 1938. Soviets border on Poland lies about what was defined in Treaty of Versailles [3]. It does not excuse anything just show mixed things were. Have no idea about other parts of the German Soviet border [4].

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish%E2%80%93Czechoslovak_bo...

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish%E2%80%93Ukrainian_War

[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Versailles

[4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German%E2%80%93Soviet_Border_a...

[gdy]

Have you actually read the content?