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by lucianf 2209 days ago
Semi-shameless plug (I work for Oracle) but have you tried OCI? You might find both the console UI/UX and the cloud calculator pretty decent. That's just my personal feel, coming over to work as an Oracle cloud consultant with previous AWS/Azure experience. I'd argue it's normal those two are where they are; AWS is now a spaghetti of products, while Microsoft are anti-KISS by DNA.
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FridgeSeal 2208 days ago
AWS might be a spaghetti of products, but they get out of my way and they’re straightforward enough to use/ignore; and that’s pretty much what I want.

Honestly, I wouldn’t touch something from Oracle with a 10 foot pole, sorry. I’m sure the UX is probably pretty good, but I’m staying away from that company if I can avoid it-too many horror stories, way too “enterprise”.

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scarface74 2209 days ago
Yes people who want to avoid lock in really want to get in bed with “call us for pricing” Oracle.
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lucianf 2208 days ago
Point taken. Every time Oracle is mentioned it's in the context of horror licensing stories. I get that - but would it make a difference if I said OCI is actually different?

Take this with as much salt as you want but they're really trying to put that in the past. OCI pricing is super transparent, simple metrics, cheaper than the incumbents on every front, there's no "call us for pricing", there's a transparent 30% discount for committed spending (before you even get to talk to a salesperson) and the dev team has been given free reign to act like a startup and ignore the corporate machine. I'm not a marketing person but I do believe we have a very good offering and it's a shame it's being ignored solely because of bad blood.

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lucianf 2208 days ago
Another point re $$$'s. Predictable, low pricing is actually a key Oracle cloud selling point. Following the recent wins with Zoom and 8x8 we've put up a comparison sheet [1] and a workload estimator [2]. Then there's the general cost estimator [3]. No hidden costs, and no calling required.

[1] https://www.oracle.com/cloud/economics/

[2] https://www.oracle.com/webfolder/workload-estimator/index.ht...

[3] https://www.oracle.com/cloud/cost-estimator.html

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nikau 2206 days ago
Not a shame.

You have a company that charges licenses based on the physical core count even if you run the product in a VM using only a single core, but then they also want to be your cloud supplier.

The only strong point of Oracle is legacy product lock in, you would be crazy to pick them for any new initiatives.

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takeda 2208 days ago
If the objective is to not get locked in public cloud isn't the best thing to do
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