[DanBC]

> This might be a rant, but it would be awesome if these new findings lead to laws that required doctors to give accurate cause of death for people that also test positive for COVID.

In England that law already exists. It's called the Coroners and Justice Act. http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2009/25/contents

You want to read about the reforms which arose out of the Shipman and Mid Staffs scandals (the Shipman Inquiry and the Francis Inquiry). You can read about those here: https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/changes-to-the-de...

[iso947]

There are three level of excess deaths in E+W

Those that are defiantly covid

Those that mention covid on the certificate

Those in excess of level of normal deaths over last 5 years

That puts covid deaths at between 40k and 70k. With an IFR across the country of between 1 and 2% based on the latest antibody tests.

That’s disastrous and we can only hope that either the most vulnerable have been disproportionately exposed or the antibody tests are massively overreading false negatives.

[jansan]

Doesn't the third level also include those who died from the side effects caused by the lockdown?

[iso947]

Yes, hence the large gap in death estimation

[kmlx]

Yes, in England there is no such thing as dying from old age. But this is still considered an official reason in Italy for example.

[thu2111]

The Shipman reforms were repealed by the coronavirus laws!

[nkkollaw]

Noice.