[drtillberg]

We wouldn't insist that people 'stop breathing' to prevent the spread of coromaviris. It's only somewhat different to insist that we all stop living and working.

Masks and gloves, plus generally keeping 6ft apart and routinely testing and contact tracing/quarantining infected individuals... what's the effective rate there? 95%? The modern medical establishment would move heaven and Earth, and incur thousands of dollars per person to get that last 5%. Most of us routinely ignore them in this regard, with respect to our own personal health, as we live our daily lives.

There just isn't a lot of evidence for the case that the choice is shutting the economic or killing millions.

[pinkfoot]

> There just isn't a lot of evidence for the case that the choice is shutting the economic or killing millions.

Which is why we have models, no?

[_-___________-_]

Yes, although reality seems to be disagreeing with the models more and more. You have countries in southeast Asia with community transmission but no lockdown, and countries in Europe with the military enforcing a strict lockdown, and the latter are far worse off in terms of hospital admissions and deaths per capita than the former.

[pinkfoot]

Did the European countries not get their transmissions before they implemented a lockdown?

My understanding is it takes 1 - 3 weeks to see the effect of a lockdown?