[archivist1]

> The narrative in China right now...

Because there's one narrative in China, folks, and this douchebag knows what it is.

But seriously, don't buy what he's selling.

The only narrative China needs right now is its victory lap. It's nearly stopped new cases. Xi visited Hebei/Wuhan.

The comment above is wishful thinking of the highest order, and perfect projection. It's Western media and nincompoops like this clown who seem to need to play the "blame game"

China got on with solving the problem. Now they're taking a victory lap and responding to requests to help overseas. The Chinese, if they are blaming anyone, are not blaming foreigners for this, they're blaming the Hebei provincial authorities for their initial mistakes in handling it.

Because they've been successful at containing a virus in the largest country on Earth, they don't need to play the blame game. It's slow-to-act and complacement Western-style governments that are in desperate need of a finger of blame to point at anyone but themselves.

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[wurst_case]

Honestly, both of you need to provide sources to support your point of view.

[jdmg94]

China literally sent a team of medics to Italy to help with the virus: https://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2020/03/13/world/europe/13re...

[LunaSea]

Because they know that the worse the crisis gets, the harsher the economical consequences for China will be.

Countries and citizens remember where the virus comes from, like they do for SARS and it they will put pressure on their governments to move production elsewhere.

[tomp]

I think China will be "punished" anyways, regardless when this crisis ends. There's no way globalization will continue in the future, governments will force companies to move production of essential supplies (food, medicine, raw materials) back locally to make their economies resilient to similar shocks in the future.

Fortunately, for China, the country is starting to have enough local consumption that it probably doesn't need to be just an export hub any more (but undoubtedly it will hurt).

Edit: this will, I predict, hurt Western companies & shareholders as well. I expect many companies to be much more rigorously stress-tested for supply chain and/or labour issues, similar to how banks are stress-tested for credit issues. This will mean thinner margins, lower profits.

[pinkfoot]

Well, until the first western cost accountant tells you to go back and "sharpen your pencil" by 20%.

Your well constructed arguments about resilience will fall on deaf ears come bonus time.

[tomp]

Obviously, which is why I'm guessing it will be centrally enforced (laws by governments). Not for companies like Uber or Netflix, but whatever is consider "essential" (medicine, energy, food, raw metals, ...).

[Gibbon1]

Frankly I'm on the side that the Chinese are acting in good faith here. They have every motivation to do so. Stamping out the virus worldwide is for them a first order national priority.

[travmatt]

It’s not necessarily an act of charity. China has a vested interest in looking like the country capable of leading the world out of the pandemic, especially as Trump continues to stumble and alienate the rest of the world - it’s the same game of politics that all countries play all the time.

Crises are how rising powers become dominant powers - WW2 was the crisis that propelled America past UK to become the worlds dominant power.

[strictnein]

That wasn't free. But, yes, they sold another country some goods that are in high demand.

[boomboomsubban]

The stories I can easily find show the doctors arriving with 30 tons of donated medical supplies and none mention China being paid for them.

[Dahoon]

The doctors was from China Red Cross, so yes, it was absolutely 100% free.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-italy-...

[jc01480]

Executing the infected hardly seems like something to take a victory lap over regardless of nationality.

[allovernow]

You are a plain fool if you don't understand that the CCP literally sets the narrative out of China, imposed with force. Tow the line or, at best, lose social credit points, at worst enjoy your permanent stay at gulag.

The Soviet Union only collapsed some 30 years ago. The CCCP was literally the model that the CCP is based on. Don't be naive.

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You've done a lot of damage in this thread. I'm not going to ban you because you've been a good user in the past, but please read https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22606977 and don't do this again.

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[BiasRegularizer]

One of the headline news from a couple of days ago, voicing support for Foreign Ministry Spokesperson's conspiracy rant on twitter. It's bizarre and make Chinese Gov look extremely childish.

https://new.qq.com/omn/20200313/20200313A06PZU00.html