[xaxsacsdaffbnk]

That's obvious bullshit, given that most modern businesses provide actual value to people.

Like an airline: people can hop on planes and go to places, to do business or meet people.

You can't do that with an ATM. ATMs don't fly.

[olivermarks]

All successful businesses provide value to succeed and survive, that's a given. The problem is that ever since the 80's junk bond era corrupt business people take over companies to load them with debt and extract financial assets.

[xaxsacsdaffbnk]

And how does that supposedly work? Why do shareholders go along with it?

And what is stopping people from creating businesses that don't do that?

It sounds much like a conspiracy theory to me. The mysterious world of finance that everybody just know to be evil.

I don't doubt that shady things happen. But there has to be a better explanation than "evil businessmen extract value". And how is it "extracting", when people get actual services in return? If I buy an apple at a supermarket, has the supermarket extracted money from me?