[Tepix]

Nethack is great, is there a server where people can watch someone play the game and have a (audio) chat while watching?

There's so much stuff to learn, I'd love to chat with an experienced players while they are venturing deeper into the dungeons.

[OskarS]

Check it out:

    ssh [e-mail]

EDIT: no audio, obviously, but you can send mail to players you're spectating

[csours]

OT: Why can't I put ssh://[e-mail] in my browser? Why isn't the browser a ssh client?

I'm sure there's an extension or some such, and I know there are a lot of admin portals that have ssh accessible from the browser.

edit: for instance here's is one such extension: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/secure-shell-app/p...

[Cyberdog]

The browser is already a browser, mail client, download manager, office suite, multimedia player, game console, chat client, videoconferencing system…

I'm okay with the browser being allowed to not do things sometimes, even if that thing is basically encrypted Telnet.

[csours]

I can't edit anymore, but I've thought about this all day, and I think it comes back to trust. It is easy to configure weak keys or keys without passphrases or all sorts of things that you don't want exposed to the internet. Or your server may have poor config so you don't even want people to know that your server exists.

I do wonder, though if it is possible to do use whitelisted features of ssh, like strong keys with strong passphrases, good crypto libraries, etc.

I mean people already type their passwords into a browser.

[somacert]

Personally I would like to see shttp:// (http over ssh) as a valid protocol.

Realistically, I know this would end up being just as bad and broken as every other web tech.

However due to the superb openssh implementation I tend to view ssh as the superior transport technology vs tls

[tialaramex]

Different audiences mean very different constraints, policy and technology for success between TLS and SSH.

Most obviously for trust. TOFU is simple and while not fool-proof it's at least easy to think about the consequences. Using SSH with certificates (which somebody is bound to mention) is an afterthought and it shows.

There's also a very different default thinking about who is authenticating to who and why. In TLS the server must authenticate and clients largely do not. In SSH the server's "authentication" is often limited to just proving possession of some private key corresponding to a public key, but the client must provide a username and state up front how they're planning to authenticate before proceeding.

This is why that FIDO OpenSSH integration results in a file on your laptop (or whatever client) with local information whereas WebAuthn (FIDO integration for HTTPS) doesn't do anything like that.

As you'd expect although the underlying primitives aren't dissimilar (Diffie-Hellman style key agreement, AES encrypt everything, bind identity to encrypted session using public key signatures) the details are tailored to their application. TLS isn't a better SSH and SSH isn't a better TLS.

[ta999999171]

It doesn't have to be. Mail the keys.

[bmn__]

> Why can't I put ssh://[e-mail] in my browser?

Try KDE Konqueror, see http://enwp.org/KIO

[Matumio]

Not audio, but there is a community in #NetHack on FreeNode (IRC) where player deaths, ascensions, etc. are announced by a bot.

[lee337]

Related, here's a video of an ascension w/ commentary in ~ 1hr 50mins by Mikko Joula (aka Adeon): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIB0y_kwFuY. It was filmed at the annual Roguelike Celebration at GitHub HQ.

Another entertaining talk from that event, more focused on the code: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5y_IAdOwaYs&t=1258s

All of the talks (if you like roguelikes, gamedev, or programming in general): https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCKv_QzXft4mD6TXmQBZtzIA/vid...

[bhaak]

Yes, either via ssh or telnet or even in your browser. The wiki lists several available public servers: https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Public_server#List_of_public_se...

The public server with most forks hardfought.org. Info on how to connect is on https://www.hardfought.org/nethack/

You can watch in your browser: https://www.hardfought.org/nethack/hterm/

There are 3 servers in Europe, the US, and Australia.

Most people are in various channels (e.g. #nethack, #hardfought) on Freenode but the #hardfought channel is also bridged to a channel on the Roguelike discord server (https://discord.gg/xUPxRe).

[jakamau]

Matt Colville did a number of twitch streams of NetHack. I don't think he does them regularly but his archived streams were a great introduction for myself.

He goes by MCDM on twitch and youtube.

[flyinghamster]

I've always considered Nethack to be almost unplayable without spoilers and/or "Use the Source, Luke." Yes, I know there are people who at least claim have ascended without them, but I don't think I'd have ever done it without some inside dope.

[thesuperbigfrog]

alt.org has online nethack play via telnet:

https://alt.org/nethack/

There might be some Twitch streams, but I am not sure.