[matheusmoreira]

> When this happens, utter chaos will reign.

Utter chaos? I don't think so.

> Hardware IDs will be forged

Seems like a victory for privacy. Who wants to be tracked via hardware IDs?

> digital content will be extracted

Any victory over DRM technology is a good thing. The only people shedding any tears will be those in the copyright industry.

> data from encrypted hard disks will be decrypted

People actually rely on proprietary hardware encryption? They should have learned the lesson when built-in SSD encryption turned out to be worthless.

[gruez]

>> Hardware IDs will be forged

>Seems like a victory for privacy. Who wants to be tracked via hardware IDs?

Those are probably not the hardware ids you're thinking about. They're the hardware ids used in trusted computing (eg. remote attestation, TPM sealing), not the ones used for fingerprinting.

>People actually rely on proprietary hardware encryption? They should have learned the lesson when built-in SSD encryption turned out to be worthless.

This is a very naive take on what's at stake. With disk encryption, there's the risk of an evil maid attack (where the attacker replaces the bootloader with a malicious one and intercepts your key next time it boots). One way of preventing this is by using trusted computing to ensure that the encryption keys are only released when the system is at a known good state (ie. bootloader hasn't been tampered with). This applies to both proprietary solutions (bitlocker) and free ones (tpm-luks).

[gowld]

Anybody who doesn't want their data copied will be shedding tears. Including anybody with private files.

You are more than welcome to decline to use DRM if you don't like it. Just don't expect people to give you copies of data they don't want shared by you.

[dependenttypes]

> Anybody who doesn't want their data copied will be shedding tears. Including anybody with private files.

FDE and things like OpenPGP are not broken by this.

> You are more than welcome to decline to use DRM if you don't like it

Or to try and break it.

[matheusmoreira]

> Anybody who doesn't want their data copied will be shedding tears.

"Their" data? What a ludicrous concept. It's analogous to saying people own numbers.

> Just don't expect people to give you copies of data they don't want shared by you.

I fully expect people to distribute "their" data far and wide to anybody who asks for it. That's what copyright is all about: giving people the illusion they're in control of what happens to that data.

The truth is only one copy of the data is needed. Once it's out there, there are no limits to what can be done with it.

[outworlder]

> "Their" data? What a ludicrous concept. It's analogous to saying people own numbers.

Oh. In that case, where have you posted your bank credentials?

[matheusmoreira]

I haven't posted them. The fact that data is private means I'm currently the only one in possession of it. It doesn't mean it's mine. Should they leak, the solution is to invalidate those credentials and get new ones, not to invoke copyright and try to get all copies off the internet.