[kalium_xyz]

I wish we could get rid of this dependency on the natural world that computers seem to have. Sadly I cant of a way to implement computers outside of reality and have some safe interface to them.

[segfaultbuserr]

I always see computers as instruments for creating an approximation of a Platonist mathematical space from a physical space. Theoretically, digital computing can be done to any precision we want, until the non-ideal physical properties and constraints kick in, such as time, space, processing power, physics, in other words, leaky abstraction...

[exrook]

Check out Permutation City by Greg Egan for some inspiration ;)

[AnthonyMouse]

The dependency comes from pushing the physical limits until the abstraction leaks. Older memory technologies were not vulnerable to rowhammer. But they were also a lot slower.

[wtallis]

Is this unreliability being driven by newer DRAM being faster, or by newer DRAM being denser?

[potiuper]

Denser & lower voltage

[CarlRJ]

That's it, we're going back to core memory.

[BuildTheRobots]

If you thought "cold boot attacks" were a problem with DDR, using memory that still holds data 50 years later might be an issue.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold_boot_attack

[saagarjha]

Core memory has temperature issues.

[saagarjha]

Unfortunately, it looks like any interface is a potential for a side channel…

[gpm]

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[heavenlyblue]

Is it? You can fix rowhammer by simply re-mapping all memory banks after executing every instruction.

[saagarjha]

That might mitigate Rowhammer, but does it really remove all side channels?

[_8j50]

Perhaps photonic computing?

I think there are still lots of advances in computing needed to eventually have security from the semiconductor level up.

[XorNot]

There's an SCP article somewhere in this...