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by crystaldev 2294 days ago
Coronavirus has been circulating for months now. Many of us have already beaten it. That's why spread is linear and not gripping the world like it should be at this point: The "spread" is a measurement of panic and vigilant diagnosis. This is most carefully observed cold of all time.

I was stocking up on dry goods and such like everybody else. After the past few days I feel like a panicked fool. Almost every single death report: "Had underlying health conditions."

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Vigilant diagnosis? Isn't the biggest issue for the U.S. right now that we're not able to test nearly enough people?

As far as stocking up, my understanding was that the reason for picking up an extra couple items each time you go to the store was in case eventually certain areas are rec'd to work from home and such. Maybe that won't happen, but it's not like that stuff would go to waste.

We're testing people who would ordinarily not be tested already. That doesn't mean the diagnosis is wrong, or that COVID-19 isn't widespread.
I know it's widespread. The extent to which that's the case, unfortunately, we have no idea because there hasn't been enough testing.

Not sure what you mean by "ordinarily" tested. This pandemic is quite a unique situation.

If the death rate was 10% across the board we would know how far it has spread. But this cold may have a 0.001% hospitalization or death rate for people in great health. There could already be 100,000 people infected in the states.

We may be close to the point of saying "fuck it. False alarm this is just a cold. Carry on". Hard to know for sure though until a couple weeks go by

From another comment, in Italy the numbers are worse than previously reported rather than better.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22476675

I did not check their source. Just saying that "we may be close to saying `false alarm`" seems almost certainly ill-informed.

Based on confirmed cases. There are likely far more cases that haven't been tested.
How can you be "almost certain" of the future based on numbers from 1 article you didn't even read?
and based on that nobody else (like WHO, local authorities near me or my parents, or even journalists) says that.
You know, some of us have family with underlying health conditions.
ok? Then do everything you normally would to avoid the flu.

There is no difference.

At this point the amount of evidence showing this is different than the flu is so overwhelming that you're either grossly misinformed (likely) or being disingenuous (less likely).
Do nothing different despite the risk of death being 100x higher? Does that really sound logical to you?
where are you getting that preposterous number from?
From the WHO and the CDC. The WHO released the figure 3.4% yesterday, and the CDC lists the flu this season as causing 18000 deaths in the US from 32 million infections = 0.05%.
This is not factual. Do the math. Starting with a couple cases, it takes 10 generations (two months) for the numbers to be large enough to be noticeable.