[ble52]

Am I the only person that doesn't have any significant issues with Catalina? I'll admit, some of the permissions-related pop-ups are a bit annoying, but overall it's been a rather stable macOS version for me (developer, working mostly in Xcode and JetBrains IDEs).

[pilif]

For me, Catalina worked fine since I’ve installed Beta 2 last summer.

Even the usual suspects, VMWare, Vagrant/VirtualBox and Homebrew survived the update just fine.

I see no crashes (at least not more than the usual once-every-two-months need to reboot), nor other weirdness. Compared to Mojave, even the random Bluetooth disconnects I had with my Magic Trackpad stopped happening.

Of course this is total non-news and I’m not going to publish a blogpost saying that Catalina is fine for me nor would that reach, much less survive on, the front page of any news aggregator if I actually were to write such a blog post.

Unfortunately, we only read about people having issues and we conclude that everybody must have problems.

[planb]

Same for me - I'm so glad those bluetooth problems have been solved! On Mojave, I had to plug in the lightning cable every few hours to reconnect the trackpad.

[jtbayly]

I installed it on one computer, and no problems (other than the freeze during install that so many people had). However, that’s ignoring this question:

> I didn’t even have to debate too much whether I should upgrade or not. The answer is no. The reasoning behind it is quite simple, actually, and it boils down to this: what Catalina takes away from me is more than what it gives me.

And that seems to be the case for me, even though I have no Catalina problems. Lost MS Office 2011 on that machine. Gained... I can’t think of a single thing off the top of my head.

Thus, wish I hadn’t upgraded.

[w0utert]

That pretty much sums up my experience.

Let's hope it was all worth it and Catalina is indeed a transitional release that serves no other purpose than laying some under-the-hood groundwork for the next release.

I wouldn't say "wish I didn't upgrade" because both my 2018 Mini and 2015 MBP are working fine, but I agree with the general sentiment that from an end user perspective there really isn't any reason to upgrade, and apparently many cases not to considering the issues reported by others.

Now that I'm typing this one thing that Catalina improved comes to mind: I have less issues driving my 5K LG screen through my BlackMagic eGPU. With Mojave, rebooting or losing the GPU connection would regularly result in black screen, and only a complete shutdown and cold restart would fix it. Don't have this problem anymore...

[jtbayly]

Well, that sounds like a good reason to be happy you updated. :)

[foxx-boxx]

File system support is changed, newer file system is the way better. Try LibreOffice, it’s free.

[jtbayly]

APFS came out earlier, and I'm already using it on Mojave. Is that what you're talking about?

[fredsted]

Not sure what the issue is either, once you add the necessary permissions for your apps, it doesn't ask again.

Only complaint is Apple seem to ignore long-standing bugs that have been there for years, like monitors switching around every time you dock your MacBook. They should make a Snow Leopard-like release and clean out their bug tracker.

[Wowfunhappy]

> They should make a Snow Leopard-like release and clean out their bug tracker.

We actually had a Snow Leopard-like release just two years ago: High Sierra. It had some new features—as did Snow Leopard—but not many. (Lest we forget, Snow Leopard introduced Dock Exposé and Exchange support, just to name two.)

And High Sierra is hands-down the best version of macOS since Mavericks. But afterwards, things regressed pretty quickly.

The real problem here is the annual release cycle. The entire concept of a transitional release is misguided. If it's transitional, keep it internal to Apple until it's ready, and let Mojave live out another year in the meantime.

[jen20]

This isn’t something I’ve encountered and I dock to three different desk setups most days. It’s typically good enough that it remembers the correct layout for multiple of the same type of monitor once configured. Is your monitor sending the serial number correctly?

[fredsted]

It has happened on several different monitors and MacBooks, even putting it to sleep and waking it can sometimes switch them, so I have to go into System Preferences and drag 'em around.

[jakear]

This just started happening to me on Mojave, after I messed around with installing some third party USB managers to try to get my new keyboard and mouse to behave. Deleted the managers and returned the hardware, but some lingering issue crippled my multi-monitor setup. It’s particularly bad because I use one horizontal one vertical.

[BlackFingolfin]

While I don’t have that particular issue, I have other issues related to external screens, with 10.14 and 2018 MBP: I usually run the laptop with closed lid and an external screen at work and at home; and use it in “laptop mode” during my commute. Now, sometimes (once a week?) when I plug it into the external screen, it just won’t wake up, unless I open the lid, and then it still won’t recognize the external screen. Have not yet found out a reliable way to resolve this, but I usually manage with turning the monitor off and on again and/or unplugging/replugging it, possibly a couple times each.

Much worse is that sometimes (once a month?) during this process macOS completely messed up all my open windows: they are all resized to a tiny size. And I have dozens or hundred of them open. This is horribly annoying, and didn’t happen to me before (in 10.11; I skipped 10.12 and 10.13, for reasons similar to the OP. Before that, I went from 10.8 to 10.11; before that, I never missed a release, often was running beta of the OS etc.; but starting with 10.9, too many issues made this undesirable).

I dread switching to 10.15; unfortunately, I will get a new MBP 16” from work, which normally I’d relish, except that there seems to be no way to use it with anything but 10.15. I’ll see if I can delay it until 10.16 is out and will pray that they started to prioritize bug fixes again, but I have little hope that’ll actually happen.

[TacticalTable]

> I have other issues related to external screens, with 10.14 and 2018 MBP: I usually run the laptop with closed lid and an external screen at work and at home; and use it in “laptop mode” during my commute. Now, sometimes (once a week?) when I plug it into the external screen, it just won’t wake up, unless I open the lid, and then it still won’t recognize the external screen. Have not yet found out a reliable way to resolve this, but I usually manage with turning the monitor off and on again and/or unplugging/replugging it, possibly a couple times each.

I've previously had these problems, and they were made dramatically worse on Catalina. Each monitor has about 50% chance of correctly loading in, on what used to be 90%. My USB mouse (which is plugged in to the displayport monitor) also loads the incorrect drivers until I unplug and replug it.

[jen20]

Ah, I’ve never tried in clamshell mode - long harboured fear of the thermal envelope from the PowerBook days.

[Hamuko]

I think I heard someone complaining about this when docking to two identical displays (with identical model names in display settings).

[TimMeade]

I have two identical setups, both with two 27 monitors and to make it worse one is horizontal and one vertical. Most of the time when i go to the other desk the monitors switch and I have to reset the orientation in display preferences. I have been fighting this for two years. Reset everything apple has told me to and no fix at all. Total PIA.

[chrisweekly]

Tried 3rd party app "SwitchResX"?

[TimMeade]

It's not the resolution it's the orientation that keeps getting flipped.

--- Well I take that back. It's been updated since last i used it a few years ago. There is display orientation savings now. It might now solve the problem, but it sure looks to make the fix much easier and faster. Trying it now. Thanks

[pi-rat]

Same issue for dual display setup, my workaround is to label the cables and make damn sure I plug them in the same order and same port every time. If I do it wrong I’ve to do the display settings and rotate both screens routine..

Another option is to use the left side ports at work and the right side at home.

[TimMeade]

Ports works SOMETIMES but since all 4 monitors are identical i still see confusion. I may try the left/right though. Currently all cables are hidden so i'll have to redo some to pull that off.

[jen20]

I commonly do this (hot desking) and don’t have the issue.

[bengale]

I don't get monitors switching, but the apps don't return to their position when I switch from docked to mobile which is a pain.

[filchermcurr]

Most of my problems seem to revolve around using an eGPU with the laptop shut. I'll randomly get intermittent freezes where the display stops updating and user input stops being accepted. When I look at the logs, AMDRadeonAccelerator is going nuts.

The AirPlay icon in the menu bar also flashes between Sidecar, Airplay, and nothing at all. I had to remove it for my sanity. Speaking of Sidecar... performance is abysmal. Not on Sidecar itself, which is actually really snappy, but it brings everything else to its knees. Probably because windowserver goes nuts with CPU usage...

My monitor isn't correctly detected when using an eGPU, but it works fine with Thunderbolt. I had to create a custom EDID with known good values for it to work properly. Luckily this was something I could fix on my own.

Oh, and every few weeks Finder will just give up and die, which has the interesting effect of preventing the Feedback application from gathering logs. Nothing will compel it to come back to life and rebooting just sits there. The only way out is to hold down the power button. This one might be SMB related, as I have a lot of shares going on and Finder might not like something that is happening with them at any given time. I've never quite isolated what's going on.

I also get T2 crashes every few weeks. They must be making progress, though, because it seems like every update the crashes get further and further apart.

Other than that... it's the same old macOS as before for me.

[wlll]

My problems are mostly around external monitors too. I have the new 16", but I had issues on my 2014 MBP running mojave too.

I have two external monitors, an Apple 27" and a Samsung 32. Sometimes the mac won't wake up my Samsung external monitor and it needs re-plugging to get it recognised (re-arranging my windows in the process).

Also, if the laptop sleeps and puts the external displays to sleep, when the laptop is then woken up there's a high chance that the non-Apple external display won't wake up in time for the OS to think it's there and it will temporarily remove it, re-arranging my windows again. These issues only happen on my non-Apple monitor, and happened the same when I had a Dell monitor too.

I used to have Finder isses too, though not Mojave related. I solved it accidentally by switching from Chrome to Firefox. YMMV.

[filchermcurr]

Oh yeah, the oh-too-familiar multiple monitor horror! I finally gave up and just bought a single ultrawide. I could feel my preciously slim sanity slipping away day by day with the struggle to wake my computer up without incident. nervous twitch

Strange about Chrome! I've always been a Firefox user, so I never had that particular issue. Unless the billions of Electron applications count...

[wlll]

I figured it was a resource starvation thing. Didn't look into it once Firefox cured the issue,

[satysin]

Stability wise it's been fine but it still has a few dumb bugs like Finder not letting me add smb shares to the sidebar (but afp shares work fine) and some UI bugs such as additional separator bars in context menus if you set Recent items to None.

Nothing terrible but lacking in some Apple polish.

The access prompts were a little annoying for the first two days but once everything has run and requested access it's fine. A few apps I have had to specifically give Full Disk Access as it seems every update it asks again and again and again.

But like you said stability is as solid as Mojave. However I don't use any legacy 32bit apps or extensions so haven't run into issues with regards to that. I feel most of the complaints I read are related to some old 32bit app which no longer works.

[flippyhead]

It's funny, at least here on HN, I find the sky is often falling when it come to Apple but my personal experience is usually quite different. I don't necessarily disagree with the specific complaints, but they seem to take on an importance here that feels overblown.

[AJ007]

The keyboard thing is a legitimate issue. When you can’t type a key, it’s a problem.

That said, I had been a lifelong PC user until 2015. I decided to buy a Macbook, the first model to use the reviled keyboard. Everything I read online said it wasn’t worth paying a premium for. Nothing I read said buy it. I bought it, and it replaced my 3 monitor PC with no loss of productivity. Everything I did ran better than I had expected (no gaming.) It was a vastly better experience than the Surface Pros I had used prior.

You have to make your own judgements. Most people that used the old keyboard hate the new one. MacOS has issues, but so does Windows 10. I’m comfortable using Linux, but that is a whole other dimension of complexity on keeping everything working (but still vastly better than it was trying to use Linux as a consumer OS in the early 2000s.)

[Moto7451]

Nothing here. It’s been as easy an upgrade as I can remember. My company’s IT team kept sending emails not to upgrade but I haven’t had an issue. I think they mostly were tired of dealing with early release headaches from Chrome not asking for permission to control the whole screen for sharing. Google Meet worked just fine with Safari so I never noticed that problem.

I do however dislike Music. I added iTunes back with Retroactive

https://github.com/cormiertyshawn895/Retroactive

[dewey]

If you don’t rely on Apple Music theres Swinsian which pretty much covers all the good parts of legacy iTunes for me. I switched to it, imported my iTunes library and I couldn’t be happier. Really responsive developer too.

I still use Music.app for my Apple Music streaming though.

[sudhirj]

Mostly OK, but I'm caught pretty badly with the 16" automatic graphics switching bug - whenever I try scrolling on browsers it tries to engage the discrete GPU, which freezes the screen for a few seconds. Had to disable auto switching, and it hasn't been fixed in the latest update. I expect this will be fixed on the next Intel driver update.

Other than that, things are fine. Not annoyed by the security, and Apple is clear that they're doing the security and privacy warnings across all platforms (same deal with iOS contacts and locations), so I do appreciate knowing exactly what each app is accessing.

[florakel]

On my 16” I disabled “use hardware acceleration when available” in Chrome’s advanced settings. Chrome stops using the GPU altogether. I did not run into any performance issues, but getting less heat and longer battery life when using chrome.

[MperorM]

Happy to hear I'm not the only one experiencing those freezes!

It's embarrassing how long its taking apple to fix this. Apple's audio doesn't exactly treat me well either.

It feels like we're starting to reach a point where linux 'just works' more often than mac.

[Wowfunhappy]

The article kind of addresses this:

> The remaining 2% [of messages I've received] are neutral. They’re from people who simply wrote me to let me know they have upgraded to Catalina and ‘survived’, and that they have no issues to report so far.

> It’s interesting to me how — apart from the usual fanboys — I still haven’t seen any unequivocally positive feedback about Mac OS Catalina. I still haven’t found someone saying, Oh man, everything is so much better after upgrading to Catalina. I can take advantage of these new features, and my workflow and productivity are so much improved compared with Mojave or High Sierra. I’ve either read people saying, Yeah, I upgraded and nothing broke, thank goodness, or complaining about something they’ve lost or having changed in a disappointing way. What I haven’t seen is something I used to see more frequently in the past when a new major release of Mac OS X was introduced — enthusiasm.

I think it's safe to assume that 2% statistic is lower than it should be due to response bias—"everything is basically okay" isn't usually worth writing about. But his point about Catalina lacking positives seems very salient.

[toyg]

Yeah, I typically upgrade because I’m eager to get this or that new feature. There is nothing that attracts me to Catalina, and quite a bit that I’m scared of.

I think I’ll just stick to Mojave until the next version comes along.

[cageface]

Brand new MBP 16" 2019. Freezes up about every other time I open the lid for as long as a minute before I can actually use it. Hangs quite often for 10 seconds while I'm using it.

Had similar issues with my 2018 after upgrading to Catalina. After rolling it back to Mojave they all disappeared. For me Catalina has been the worst MacOS release I've seen in 15 years of using Macs.

[madeofpalk]

It's been completely fine for me. I didn't even really get that many permissions pop-ups.

But I do agree, that there's real no reason to upgrade. "If it ain't broke, don't upgrade"

[skc]

Now you know how some of us who rarely have issues with Windows feel :)

[ble52]

I actually have a second PC desktop with Win 10 for gaming purposes. Good quality hardware components, regular software updates, no weird "antivirus" software, browser extensions, "cleaner" apps, etc. and it's working like a champ, no complains here as well :-)

I think this whole "System <PutYourOsHere> is shit" is more of a user problem than a software problem ;-P

[tabs_masterrace]

I think a lot of issues can be resolved by doing a clean install. Highly recommended on 3+ year old machines. macOS & Windows, suffers from the same issue, in that overtime, after you install a lot of things, and have multiple major upgrades, it can become a bit unstable. Think about all the state an OS has, and how it can changes over a period of years, and how states gets migrated and carried over into a new paradigm during OS updates.

[sneak]

No. I have had no problems with it on four machines. The permissions dialogs are welcome; I run Little Snitch and used to run Little Flocker. Little Flocker was a pain to configure. The new per-app, per-dir setup is much easier, and doesn’t require any install.

It stops random data exfiltration and ransomware dead. I don’t know why people are complaining about it.

[daveFNbuck]

I haven't had any issues, and I appreciate being asked for permissions rather than assuming them. It makes me feel safer even if I haven't yet encountered a situation where I said no.

[markandrewj]

I agree. I think this was one of the motivating factors in the change.

https://www.theregister.co.uk/2019/09/25/macwoes_google_chro...

[jmull]

No, we just don’t generate any online buzz by not posting about the problems we don’t have.

[0x1221]

Similar experience. Switching from bash to zsh was probably the most disruptive part of it.

[eru]

One shouldn't have been running the bash that came with MacOS anyway. It was a decade out of date.

You can still install your own bash now, or even continue to run the old, obsolete version. But yes, it won't be the default.

[pjmlp]

For the amount of work I use the CLI for, it was still perfectly alright for my 30 year old UNIX knowledge.

[abjKT26nO8]

Really? https://www.cvedetails.com/vulnerability-list/vendor_id-72/p...

[pjmlp]

> amount of work I use the CLI for...

I don't use macOS as pretty UNIX, rather for XCode, testing Websites on Safari, doing iOS stuff.

So when something doesn't get used, the exploits don't matter that much.

[laktak]

I'm happy for you. I have crashes every few days (system freezes then reboots). I'm not even sure where the problem is

> BAD MAGIC! (flag set in iBoot panic header), no macOS panic log available

[zippergz]

Mostly fine for me. Every major update has some bugs and issues, but I haven't found it to be substantially worse than any of the others over the many years I've been using OS X.

[S_A_P]

I will preface this by saying that for anyone who does have issues, it sucks. I empathize with you. Data loss is frustrating. Catalina seems to have been an especially large paradigm shift as well, so seems there are edge cases.

Having said that, Im curious if these folks went in blindly with no upgrade plan. ANY time you update ANY OS, you should do a bit of recon to know what you can and cannot live without, and take a safety copy of those items. The referenced email shows that maybe the person was a bit careless and over-reliant on the process "just working".

Re: barrage of security pop ups? I see the usual suspects (kernel extension needs approval, can the installer access an external drive, etc) but weren't most of these in previous versions of MacOS? Also, do you want Apple to choose for you? Unfortunately, there is an entire industry of shady individuals, companies and nation states dedicated to exploiting software. I dont think any software vendor enjoys worsening the user experience because the world contains @$$holes. I dont see a way around this for any OS.

I admit I jumped to Catalina on Day 1 but only after taking a backup of what I needed and ensuring I could wipe and revert to Mojave. Surprisingly, even apps that I had that were not Catalina compatible mostly all worked fine. I did lose a few 32 bit apps, but nothing I couldnt live without or didnt have an equal substitute for.

I only use a mail client for work email and that is outlook. I havent used the mail app in 10 years, and it sounds like it was the source of frustration for this user. I do think Apple should do better vetting upgrades.

iTunes split- I don't really notice any difference save for the UI. I dont have strong feelings about this app other than when I forget to specify a launch app for an audio file Im working on, iTunes is the default(I should change that...) and it is SLOOOOOOOOOOOOW to launch. Im guessing the music library database is the culprit here. Maybe they could async that part and just call the music library offline/verifying so that you can play the single file you clicked quickly...

[pdonis]

> e folks went in blindly with no upgrade plan. ANY time you update ANY OS, you should do a bit of recon to know what you can and cannot live without, and take a safety copy of those items.

The "Part 1" article in the series addresses this: yes, we techies understand that we need to do this, but most people are not techies. Most users of Macs are not techies. They expect upgrades to Just Work, and they expect their machine to always take care of their data. That's a lot of what they think they are buying from Apple, which is not unreasonable given that that is (or at least used to be) one of Apple's main selling points as compared to Windows: they carefully integrate the hardware and software to make sure everything Just Works.

If Apple is no longer making that guarantee, why would you pay all the extra money for a Mac?

[sdnguyen90]

Both Catalina and Mojave were the smoothest MacOS upgrades I've had for a very long time.

The only issue I have with Catalina is that I can't figure out how to disable password auth for sshd since the config is basically read only now. Ended up using Wireguard and disabling external SSH access.

[kureikain]

Maybe it's other issue.

I was able to do `sudo vi /etc/ssh/sshd_config` then save it

Once saved, it looked like this: https://imgur.com/CGh4cB0

[DoofusOfDeath]

I must be getting old. I can't tell if you're referring to some meme.

[biztos]

I lost the ability to print anything with graphics in it, on a MBP that's been religiously kept up to date for 5-6 years.

Funny thing is, I tend to forget about the graphics problem, because how often do you print anything with graphics in it? Then along comes a boarding pass and oh yeah other computer.

I also find it annoying that it obsoleted a bunch of my software, like MS Office, and constantly asks for permission to use my Desktop.

But other than that, seems fine! And I do like the new XCode goodies!

[altitudinous]

The quality was terrible at the initial release, but the issues I experienced then seem to have been resolved now.

It should not have been released in the state it was in at the time.

[dunham]

Catalina has been working fine for me since the release.

On my newer laptop, with Mojave I had a few Touch Bar related panics. I think they resolved that before Catalina came out.

My work laptop is Mojave. It still has the issue where it will lock up if I connect the external monitor while it is suspended. And recently it does this thing where the WindowServer task starts spinning and continues even if I kill off all the apps.

[goblin89]

Catalina works well for me, installed in November 2019 on a new machine. I keep an install of Mojave for software compatibility reasons. I believe it’s just in a separate APFS container, the setup described in an Apple’s guide.

There were initially some issues with excess resource use by some system process relating to text input, fans spinning and all. This seems to be gone for a while now.

Two-screen setup with Sidecar is worth it!

[markandrewj]

This has been my experience as well, there were a few things I had to clean up post-upgrade, but the issues were not difficult to resolve. For the most part I just needed to update xcode, brew, and recompile some packages. I also waited a few weeks before upgrading though, to try and give package maintainers a chance to push any last minute updates that they did get in during the beta.

[kitsunesoba]

It’s been just peachy for me across multiple machines, varying from MacBooks to iMac to a hackintosh tower. Similar usage here — mostly development tools and a couple of games. I make a point of avoiding dependence on very old software (or software made by companies that can’t be arsed to tick the 64-bit box on their compiler) so losing 32-bit didn’t really impact me.

[mattkevan]

No you’re not the only one. I’ve been running Catalina since the early betas on all my Macs and haven’t had any problems.

I’m sure that people do have legitimate issues, but Catalina doesn’t seem nearly as bad as some previous releases, such as 10.5 Leopard (or Leper as we knew it).

I don’t even mind the security pop-ups - it’s reassuring that not everything has access to anything without my say-so.

[uniacid]

I have not personally had any issues with it at all via upgrading, mainly 2 Macbook Pros, 1 2018 ed and 1 2015 ed so not sure if maybe it's has more to do with hardware compatibility issues some are experiencing which doesn't doesn't help your confidence level of Apple and future releases but I'm sure there can be fixes and lessons learned.

[xyst]

Didn’t upgrade until the recent minor release (15.3?) and haven’t experienced any major hiccups described by others.

Then again, I have a 2017 MBP and none of my daily apps (mostly developer related tools) were all 64 bit compatible from the start.

I imagine other people in certain industries weren’t too happy when their outdated 32 bit applications created by defunct companies no longer function.

[fineline6]

I had to Google around to see what the security issues are, I haven't seen a lot of pop ups, maybe I don't use apps that need them. Catalina came on my new MBP 16" and I am loving the whole experience, a serious return to form on the hardware front and a neat new feature in Sidecar, really useful. No problems here. Also primarily JetBrains IDE user.

[szines]

I always wipe down my mac and a clean reinstall... Never had any issue with Catalina and with previous releases. macOS is great... Honestly when do you upgrade your Win or other type of machine... clean install, that's the key. ;)

[nodesocket]

I have intermittent, but frequent issues with external displays not coming up when plugged in, or display output (HDMI only) being corrupt (I have to reboot to fix corruption). Brand new 16" MacBook Pro nearly maxed out. I suspect the issues are with the AMD display drivers.

[low_key]

I only have one problem with it. After disconnecting external monitors, it sets the brightness of the laptop monitor to 100%.

You know... plus the normal random osx crash that we're used to. Windows and Linux are more reliable these days on the desktop.

[flixic]

It's an ok release. Occasional "This app wants to access your Desktop" notification is annoying, but otherwise very few problems. Also, I barely used iTunes before so can't say how much would I find missing in Music.

[monkin]

No, you are not. I'm using macOS in betas for last 4 years, and most annoying thing is always the first beta release (e.g. broken keychain, iCloud, missing files, etc.). I don't even have permission-related pop-ups! :)

[xwowsersx]

No, you're not the only one. Thankfully, I don't think I've ever ran into any serious issues with any OS release. I'm always a bit surprised when I see others report show-stopping issues.

[killjoywashere]

Early releases rendered bluetooth "unavailable" on my original retina macbook, usually after closing the lid a few times. The only solution was rebooting.

[Aloha]

I've had issues with a photos related daemon consuming all possible resources, and tone machine not working, beyond that, no real problems here either.

[jxdxbx]

I've had no real bugs over the 3 Macs I regularly use. Some security-related inconveniences, but I think those are overall worth it.

[jxdxbx]

Oh there is one 32 bit app that I lost. It wasn't important.

[gempir]

No Problem here. I use for work and personal. Got zero issues that I can think off that weren't there in other versions

[kevinherron]

I've got 2 laptops with no issues. One is a 16" that came with Catalina, the other is a 2018 that I upgraded.

[xenihn]

It's running great on my newly-built Hackintosh. I'm still scared of upgrading my personal and work MBPs though.

[013a]

There are tens of millions of people running Catalina. Most of us aren't complaining, because it works fine.

[eru]

I had some issues when I was running the beta, but it has been mostly stable for me since the official release.

[benologist]

I didn't have any issues until I dived into my archive of DRM-free games and none of them work anymore.

[davepeck]

No significant issues with Catalina here.

[askafriend]

It's been completely fine for me. On both my personal and development machines.

[rsynnott]

Yeah, this has been one of my less annoying MacOS upgrade experiences.

[rado]

No breaking bugs here.

[aganame]

Nope. Catalina from the first release on 4 macs, all work fine. Also at work, hundreds of upgrades went through with no problems.

Apple and any hint of problems seem to be clickbait fodder these days. Almost seems like a coordinated pr effort.

[toxik]

Absolutely not “coordinated pr effort.” Safari stops rendering entirely on iOS every now and then, seems like a pretty major bug no? Not fixed for like five releases. AirPlay 2 is an absolute joke, stops playing after five minutes on the dot in some situations. Again, no fix in like a solid year.

Good for you that you don’t have any problems, others do. Regression type problems.

[dfcowell]

> Safari stops rendering entirely on iOS every now and then

Oh great, other people are having this too. Assumed it was only me.

[toxik]

Utterly insane that Apple has dodged the bad PR on this to me, their software has absolutely degraded in quality over the last five years -- in ways that Apple software should never, like exactly the type of thing you paid the premium for. Such as a working f---ing browser.