If we look at hospitalizations or deaths the difference is still significant.
> Outbreaks due to Salmonella are on the rise, with S. Enteritidis causing one in six food-borne disease outbreaks in 2016. Salmonella bacteria were the most common cause of food-borne outbreaks (22.3%), an increase of 11.5% compared to 2015. They caused the highest burden in terms of numbers of hospitalisations (1,766; 45.6% of all hospitalised cases) and of deaths (10; 50% of all deaths among outbreak cases).
I've heard that people in the US are discouraged from eating raw eggs. That makes it sound like the EU would be at greater risk, but if we the US doesn't do proper measurements we can pretend that it makes it impossible to even attempt to compare.
Eggs are a funny one, as the regulation is very different between US and EU.
In the US all commercial eggs must be washed, which destroys the cuticle and is why eggs are stored in a fridge to keep fresh. In the EU commercial eggs cannot be washed, and are typically stored outside the fridge (and vaccinated against salmonella, iirc).
There is a lot of contention about the effect on bacterial culturing, but research I've seen suggests it's a bit of a wash (e.g. 10.1371/journal.pone.0090987)
Turkey does best of all those, in regards to eggs: We have proper vaccination of chickens, eggs are not washed and eggs are always kept cold in stores (usually also at home).
Maybe, certainly prudent approach and many I know in the UK also store their eggs in the fridge, though can't say it's common to see them stored in a fridge in stores.
Be nice to see some stats comparing that, though different countries have different ways of measuring stats and then culture of accessing such services. UK, it's free so people wont hesitate, USA - not free, be cases that ppl ride it out themselves, or not and only then would be a statistic. Turkey - no idea and not easy to find such stats in western language as "Turkey health stats" won't end well in the likes of google and as it in effect, flips you the bird :groan:.
This is a genuinely hard problem between jurisdictions, because reporting tends to be done in terms of statistics only, with differing (and often unreported) data methods, etc.
The context of this thread is chicken, but thanks for noting that. But the point stands -- estimated infections cannot be compared with reported cases.
If you can find actual reported cases in the US from all sources, that would be great to compare -- otherwise we shouldn't make the comparison at all.
I'm not sure that that's the reason, actually. The reason is that not everyone who suffers from disease X necessarily goes to get treatment for disease X which would be the only way in which that case of disease X could be reported.
So, for example, if it's the case that only 1/100 people who get salmonella have symptoms severe enough to cause them to go for treatment, then the _estimates_ of salmonella will be 2 orders of magnitude _higher_ than the _reported_ cases.
> Outbreaks due to Salmonella are on the rise, with S. Enteritidis causing one in six food-borne disease outbreaks in 2016. Salmonella bacteria were the most common cause of food-borne outbreaks (22.3%), an increase of 11.5% compared to 2015. They caused the highest burden in terms of numbers of hospitalisations (1,766; 45.6% of all hospitalised cases) and of deaths (10; 50% of all deaths among outbreak cases).
https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/news-events/salmonella-cases-n...