[no_flags]

Kind of reminds me of this copypasta that has become a meme in the emo music scene:

"Real Emo" only consists of the dc Emotional Hardcore scene and the late 90's Screamo scene. What is known by "Midwest Emo" is nothing but Alternative Rock with questionable real emo influence. When people try to argue that bands like My Chemical Romance are not real emo, while saying that Sunny Day Real Estate is, I can't help not to cringe because they are just as fake emo as My Chemical Romance (plus the pretentiousness). Real emo sounds ENERGETIC, POWERFUL and somewhat HATEFUL. Fake emo is weak, self pity and a failed attempt to direct energy and emotion into music. Some examples of REAL EMO are Pg 99, Rites of Spring, Cap n Jazz (the only real emo band from the midwest scene) and Loma Prieta. Some examples of FAKE EMO are American Football, My Chemical Romance and Mineral EMO BELONGS TO HARDCORE NOT TO INDIE, POP PUNK, ALT ROCK OR ANY OTHER MAINSTREAM GENRE

[maxerickson]

This is more of an aside than a reply to anything you said, but it can be fun to look at how Spotify has mapped things out:

http://everynoise.com/

(they are working to make genres that their listeners use, not just asserting it top down)

There's a bunch of blog posts about that map linked at the bottom.

[zpallin]

The copypasta makes a good point but is just over the top about it. However what they call emo I've always called "emocore" which is, of course, the source of the word. Emocore as a word was invented when the DC scene began differing the sounds of Minor Threat and Rites of Spring, the former being "hardcore". I sometimes joke that the word was so detested by Ian MacKaye that he and Guy Picciotto, Joe Lally and Brendan Canty started an entirely new genre via Fugazi in protest.

The interesting thing about the copypasta is that none of the bands listed as real Emocore I don't think ever willingly identified as that genre. Whereas all of the other bands listed may have on some level agreed that their music is more or less in the "emo" genre. In way, it's saying that you're only real emo if that was not your intent.

As it relates to the Cyber Truck, however, is interesting. I think it's fair to say that the approach to construction of the Cyber Truck is relatively in line with the Brutalist movement: exposed materials in bare form with rigid and simple geometric designs. But the Cyber Truck was not created by any of the original Brutalist Architects, nor was it done in that era. And even though the location may be somewhat right, in that the Bay Area (where Tesla is HQ'd) is full of Brutalist Architecture, if the author of the copypasta had written about this subject instead, the cyber truck would have undoubtedly been mentioned in the ALL CAPS SECTION at the end.

[AtlasBarfed]

"Leading Brutalist Expert" is a hilarious phrase.

If almost everyone considers it brutalist, well, too bad expert gatekeeper of an ill-defined abstract notion.

[derefr]

Regular words work that way. Jargon words don't.

Jargon words are defined once, in an academic paper that introduces them, and then everyone else using the word in the jargon sense keeps using that exact definition. If the word becomes useless, they get a new word, since the old word still means—and will be preserved to forever mean—the old thing.

If you think about it, this is the only way that academia can "work" over a span of generations. We need to be able to differentiate statements about phlostigon from statements about calories; statements about the luminiferous aether from statements about electricity; etc. If we just re-used the word "phlostigon" for the concept of calories, we'd both render a lot of previous papers way more confusing than they need to be, and also make productive debate about which of the hypotheses is true basically impossible.

Anthropology (and so art/music/etc. history) is an academic discipline; words like "Brutalist" are jargon terms in that discipline. (They're also non-jargon words used by laymen like journalists, but that pretty much doesn't affect what the academics do at all.)

It all seems very obvious if you map it to your own discipline. E.g. if laymen, when they say "a matrix", mean some VR simulation thing, that doesn't change what it means when a mathematician says "a matrix", right?

[augustocallejas]

I believe that comes from a satirical Facebook page, but in an effort for a serious response, this page does a decent job categorizing the different sub-genres:

http://www.fourfa.com/styles/index.htm

[heavyset_go]

Iterations of that copypasta have existed for like two decades.

[alex_young]

Longer than that. Monty Python did something very similar in Life of Brian: https://youtu.be/a0BpfwazhUA

[lukebuehler]

This is excellent satire of “narcissism of minor differences”

[k__]

lol, reminds me of a chat I had with a friend last week.

He said, he read a book about rock'n'roll and the author tried to define what r'n'r is.

In the end, for the author, r'n'r was created when a specific album was released somewhere in the 60s and stopped with a specific single released in the 70s. So he was arguing that r'n'r was a music created in a period of less than 10 years and everything befor and after this had nothing to do with r'n'r.

[hanklazard]

That's hilarious.

As an aside, the self-titled American Football album from 1999 (fake emo, apparently) is one of my favorite records of all time. Highly recommend for anyone that likes layered twinkly guitars in their indie pop.