[jancsika]

That is such an elegant scam. It's like a magic trick complete with misdirection.

Is there market where HN-type people come up with these and sell them to people to implement?

[segh]

I hope not! Better put your efforts into creating value rather than winning zero-sum scams.

[novok]

Negative-sum TBH

[NilsIRL]

I doubt it because people are ethical (I hope).

But this is so true. I feel like I always come up with so many loopholes but because of their nature of being "scams" I obviously don't do them.

[jorathexploruh1]

You realize you just “hoped” people are ethical as a reply to a post describing a way in which at least one person was claimed to be unethical

If you can use a pattern to grift off the system someone is using it. What’s most likely you’re not aware or emotionally predisposed to avoid connecting those dots

[elipsey]

lol, you're here too. This sort of reminds me of people at bars complaining about the type of people they meet at bars. :)

What does "HN-type people" mean to you?

[ghostbrainalpha]

You can't make a business of an honest marketplace based on selling services only to dishonest people. Eventually your own customers will ruin the business.

This is the fundamental reason "Organized Crime" always fails in the end.

[qazpot]

I don't think it is true that Organized Crime fails in the end. OC organizations like Cosa Nostra , Yakuza, Triads and many others are not disappearing any time soon.

[ghostbrainalpha]

Look closer at what you are calling "organizations". I would just call that an Industry. The individuals and businesses (Families) fail at a rapid rate. Just because they are replaced by other businesses in the same industry, doesn't mean that criminal organizations are successful in terms of longevity.

There are some notable exceptions in the Yakuza, but I would argue even those fit the pattern because the most successful Yakuza are working in grey areas and aren't fully engaging in illegal actives.

[ghaff]

Organized Crime mostly fails because people get thrown in jail. Obviously not happening here.

[warent]

Usually because someone ends up betraying them, e.g. the Chicago Outfit. In other words, dishonesty ends up ruining them. So the comment still makes sense.

[ghaff]

Well, yeah, a faction ends in jail because someone rats them out—either inside or a competitor.

[koolba]

Isn’t that what all those credit card dump sites do?

[ghostbrainalpha]

I'm not saying you can't make the business work in the short term. But ultimately the more successful it becomes the faster it will fail.

[rhizome]

0week vulnerabilities for sale on the dark web. /s

[missedthecue]

Yes, it's called blackhatworld.com