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by bullman 2445 days ago
There was a time when IE was the dominant browser, and happily did whatever they wanted to.

That was arguably better, because at least they acted predictably. Chrome has been continually altering how autocomplete is handled in the last 5 or 6 major releases

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The most horrible is that it is almost completely unstylable, last time I checked. If you have floating placeholders it gets fun.
They acted predictably by never updating IE and letting it stagnate. Hard to see how that is better in any meaningful way.
You still had a choice, nowadays being a Web Developer is almost a synonym for Chrome Developer and it was the IE hatting crowd that made it happen.
You must have lived in a different past than me.

IE was far more dominant, and browsers actually had meaningful differences back then. Porting CSS written for IE to Firefox could easily take 50% of the initial implementation time, if not 100%. Today, it's not completely uncommon to have something developed on Chrome working in Firefox and Safari without any changes.

And the most significant problem with IE was obviously that it wasn't FOSS, and was only available for Windows. Neither applies to Chrome.

Yeah all those Web sites that are Chrome only must be a product of my imagination.

It doesn't matter if Chrome is open-source, when it is technically owned by a single corporation.

Update your beliefs.. Microsoft is now a major contributor to chromium.
[citation needed]

They are now a major user of chromium, and may contribute, but they do not have any say in what goes into chromium. That is still controlled by google employees. If said google employees do not like microsoft patches, they will reject the proposed changes, and microsoft can then at best push them into their own fork.

I seriously can't wrap my head around why anyone decided it would somehow be 'okay' to use googles web browser. Because unless you are a Pollyanna coolaid drinker you know where that's going to lead us.
Except Chrome is still far below the user-base of IE in its heyday. And the most "valuable" users are all on mobile Safari. So it still makes sense to at least test with that.
Mobile Safari is only relevant on first tier countries.

Plenty of web sites aren't for international consumption.

"the most "valuable" users are all on mobile Safari"

Not at all, as only 20% of the people using mobile browsers at all, are using Safari.

To be accurate: Safari has 20% of mobile browser marketshare. And 5% of desktop browser marketshare. So globally they are <20%
Yes but these users account for a very disproportionate amount of spending.
Doesn't matter, chrome started to ignore standards and dictate their understanding.
You didn't have a choice. That was the whole problem!
Well, shortly you won't have a choice anymore.

And there was a choice, back then alternatives like Opera, did actually ship their own engine.

We're not talking about choice for users. This is about choice for developers.
Likewise I had Netscape, Opera, IE on my development environment.