[not_real_acct]

> Last week Rogan had Capt Fravor who was one of the alleged witnesses to the "tictac" video that the pentagon confirmed the legitimacy of 2 years ago. Worth watching if you're into this kind of thing.

On Rogan's forum, I posted an explanation of how these Navy "UFOs" work. I've included a history of their progress and citations:

https://old.reddit.com/r/JoeRogan/comments/dfehjt/an_explana...

[runjake]

I'm not going to refute your post, as I can't think of anything more plausible.

But, I will mention that flying a Navy aircraft dangerously close to other military aircraft -- especially between aircraft in formation is aside from being highly-dangerous, is highly-frowned upon, and highly unprofessional.

I don't see US military flight crews taking this risk, even if they are piloting "black" aircraft. I don't see this scenario happening (without an accompanying court martial).

Citation: Served in military in this area. FWIW, I have no better idea of what's going on than the rest of you, other than:

1. The possibility it's a government-manufactured hoax in order to misinform somebody for some reason, or...

2. A multi-spectral (visual/IR/radar) spoofing of some sort, which would mean the US could test things on live crews without actual danger to the crews.

[mr_overalls]

Tom Mahood - a UFO skeptic with an advanced degree in physics - gives a plausible argument that the Air Force has been testing particle beams designed to spoof radar for quite a long time at Groom Lake.

https://www.otherhand.org/home-page/area-51-and-other-strang...

"The way it works is like this. When directed toward the sky, a properly tuned proton beam, focused by magnetic lenses, would pass through the first few thousand meters of air with no apparent effect. If the energy levels are adjusted right, the beam itself wouldn’t be visible. Then, when the energy of the beam dropped to a critical value, it would dump its remaining energy in a very short distance, ionizing the oxygen and nitrogen atoms of the atmosphere, causing one damn fine glowing ball of plasma."

"Assuming a circular beam aperture, the plasma would also take on a circular shape. Viewed from the side, the plasma would have a lenticular cross-section, and possibly even a different color from the bottom to the top due to the energy gradient of the dying beam. Very much like a spectral distribution). In short, it would look just like a glowing saucer. The beam could quickly be moved laterally, giving the plasma the appearance of instantly moving across the sky, much as a searchlight can jump 'instantly' across the bottom of a cloud."

[penagwin]

I was thinking the same thing. The only other thought was they were testing to see if our own procedures could detect the craft?

But then I would have expected the crews who saw it to be quickly hushed - not publicly talking about it.

[LoveDeathRobots]

https://old.reddit.com/r/JoeRogan/comments/dfehjt/an_explana...

> The US Navy has made it abundantly clear that they have this technology .. When motionless, the craft point their gravitational waveguides DOWN, which causes them to hover.

OK then, tell us why they allowed two shuttles to explode rather than use this gravitational waveguide technology?

[not_real_acct]

Because the technology was classified at the time.

In 2008, a CIA analyst named "Ron Pandolfi" signed off on the declassification of the technology in a documented that he signed, here : https://fas.org/irp/agency/dod/jason/gravwaves.pdf

Pandolfi testified before the senate in 1998 in regards to the Chinese stealing U.S. technology:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/campf...

The US patent office rejected the Navy's patents initially, then signed off on them after the Navy protested that China was working on something similar. Details here : https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/28729/docs-show-navy-g...

[pedrocr]

>In 2008, a CIA analyst named "Ron Pandolfi" signed off on the declassification of the technology in a documented that he signed, here : https://fas.org/irp/agency/dod/jason/gravwaves.pdf

That document says very clearly the technology is not feasible.

[not_real_acct]

> That document says very clearly the technology is not feasible.

Yes, that's true. In the declassified document from 2008, they explicitly said it was unfeasible.

In the patent from ten years later, they explain how they did it.

Here is a cut and paste from the Navy's patent (https://patents.google.com/patent/US10322827B2/):

"The JASON report considers relatively low EM energy fluxes, when compared with those generated by the physical mechanisms described in the inventor's aforementioned published paper (on the order of 1033 W/m2, and beyond). This exceptionally high EM power intensity induces spontaneous particle pair production (avalanche) out of the vacuum of free space, thereby, ensuring complete polarization of the local Vacuum energy state, thus resulting in modification of the local spacetime energy density. It is because of this fact, that the JASON report's conclusions must be revisited, are incorrect, and are directly in conflict with the current invention."

In my Reddit post, I get into more detail, in regards to the relationship between JASON and the US Navy. (JASON was a program started by DARPA, who created the Internet.)

[istorical]

Did your post get deleted? Anyone have a screengrab?

[noodle_face_]

You can always try Removeddit. Just replace reddit in the URL with removeddit, like so:

https://removeddit.com/r/JoeRogan/comments/dfehjt/an_explana...

[frickinLasers]

The whole account was deleted, with all the author's replies in the thread gone too.

[bzgai]

What did it say?