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by axod 5633 days ago
I'd think it's pretty high as well.

Personally, I can't see the appeal apart from price. I'd take a hotel every time.

Am I the only one worried about rape/murder/theft with something like this as well? Maybe I am :/

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I would much prefer to stay at an AirBnB place than a hotel even at the same price (though getting comparable accommodations for half the price is obviously a plus). I've met a lot of interesting people as hosts that I've gone out with, shared dinners with, etc. that I would've never had at a hotel. I can see how this may change as it gets more popular and mainstream, though.

I've used it quite a bit and have had nothing but good experiences, but I'm rather selective about where I want to stay. That said, I do think there is a problem with not wanting to leave negative feedback for fear of retaliation, and it certainly is going to be one of the biggest problems as they grow.

For reference I've stayed at maybe a dozen places in the last 9 months, mostly in SF, SD, and NoCal.

I don't mean to be snarky but how is rape/murder/theft threat different than your daily life? Someone is going to go overboard and sucker people vs randomly kidnap someone at a Wendys?
I live in a safe place. If I'm going traveling (To likely a more dangerous place), I'd be safer staying in some sort of 'official' establishment, such as a hotel. Rather than staying with random people. They could be irritating, unhinged, dangerous, murderous, thieving, perverted, etc

Random people scare me. Maybe I just assume the worst in random people. How many airbnb rooms have spycams installed in the showers? I'd bet it's more than in hotel rooms :/

It's just the same reason I wouldn't hitch-hike or go in an unlicensed taxi.

How are people working in a hotel not random?
They're vetted by the hotel, there's regulation, command structure, security in the hotel, they have an incentive to not do bad things (They'd get fired), they're (hopefully) trained, etc etc

Additionally, if the hotel is a big chain, there's a certain standard of service you can pretty much be sure of across hotels.

So IMHO, people working for a company who are trained and employed to serve the public, are quite different to 'random people'.

You mean like nurses/doctors (prime example of people who are trained and employed to serve the public) that kill their patients?

Some references to well-known cases:

http://www.google.de/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&ve...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harold_Shipman

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lainz_Angels_of_Death

Todespfleger von Sonthofen - http://www.crimezzz.net/serialkillers/L/LETTER_stephan.php http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephan_Letter

Ever heard of Mechthild Bach? Can't find an English link right now.

Everyone's trained not to do bad things (it's called education), HR departments are not able to screen out killers, thiefs, rapists etc. In the end, people working in a hotel are a random selection, too. So whoever downvoted me, please reconsider.

I didn't say there were NO instances of trained employees abusing trust. Obviously there are edge cases everywhere.

If I'm going traveling to some strange dangerous place, a trained employee is going to be safer than a random person off the street.

I expect you were downvoted because you decided to interpret my comments as "trained employees never do anything wrong", rather than what I actually said, "trained employees are safer for you than random people".

People have an incentive not to do things bad on Airbnb too.

It is called prison.

spycam in shower? I'd expect chance of prison is nil. Stealing wallet / jewelery / etc? Again, prison is a long shot.

I'm by no means saying it happens all the time, but I can see the incentive to use airbnb as a way to lure victims.

I agree with the above but on the other hand, if I was searching for places to stay in a city and found out that an old friend of mine was on Airbnb for that city, I would jump at the chance. I haven't used Airbnb but I would really push an initiative to feature friends on the site via FB connect.
Friends don't generally charge each other money to stay at their place though, right?

Or maybe that's a difference between close friends and acquaintances--and many people have a lot of acquaintances for Facebook friends, so I can see it working out.

Maybe not a 1st degree friend but a friend of a friend or something like this.

A feature that finds out the "shortest chain" friend that rents out an apartment in your destination city would be interesting. But you need a social graph for that.

Sounds like a facebook app worth making. Rent out rooms to people that are at most 3 hops removed from you on FB?
Check out SecondPorch (secondporch.com) for a pretty nice execution of that concept, built around FB Connect.
If I was Airbnb I would acquire the above.