[moate]

Without knowing the specifics about how this product works on the engineering side, do you think the following is true:

If I, random delivery man, walk up to a Nest user's home, and his camera scans my face to compare to the data stored for facial confirmation, that this information is not used/stored by the recognition software?

The system is always on/scanning. It's using my face somehow, and I'm not using or buying their product, I'm just a person going about my day.

[wwweston]

Hey, now. Everyone knows that in a liberty-focused society -- especially one in which we finally get rid of all burdensome regulation which would keep the free enterprise system from ushering in a market-guided utopia -- you are perfectly free to tell anyone whose house you're going to that you will not go anywhere that has a doorbell camera.

Or to a business with a security camera.

And as for the delivery man angle... sure, that may seem like compulsion, but for one thing, the delivery man can always quit his job (especially in an optimally functioning market which will of course increase labor opportunities and will definitely not reduce wages for labor to its marginal production costs), plus eventually they'll have to quit because we're going to automate delivery anyway.

[reaperducer]

you are perfectly free to tell anyone whose house you're going to that you will not go anywhere that has a doorbell camera.

Doorbell cameras give perfectly adequate views of many places other than people's porches.

If Google wants to put a data-collecting robot on the street with a big sign reading "We're scanning your face to sell to advertisers!" there's nothing I can do about it, but at least it's honest.

Google using Nest cameras to scan the activities of people just walking down a nearby street is not cool.

[moate]

I believe OP was being sarcastic. We're all on team "FOH Nest" in this thread so far.

[wwweston]

Confirmed. I was hoping phrases like "market-guided utopia" would give it away, but I do realize Poe's law can make it hard.

[reaperducer]

That, and I was trying to read while on a train, so my attention wasn't fully on the task at hand.