[throwawaynihil]

The only thing DoH gives anybody .. is even more of your private data to a centralized provider with questionable ethics, and the only company more ethically questionable than Google is Palantir. Run your own local resolver and move on with your life.

[growse]

> ... private data to a centralized provider with questionable ethics

What, like your ISP?

[ndidi]

Not everybody lives in the US. I trust my ISP. They are cool, and their handling of my data is regulated under the GDPR and other laws. CloudFlare? Not so much.

[growse]

I am also not in the US. However, everywhere I look I see large ISPs with questionable ethics who are centralized providers of DNS.

I'm struggling to see why DoH means "is even more of your private data to a centralized provider with questionable ethics", which is what the OP said.

[magashna]

Mozilla is rolling this out in the US, where there are few ISPs across the nation.

[throwawaynihil]

Rather than putting real effort into this, I'm just going to say that Paul Vixie, the creator of DNS, advocates for using a local resolver (not your ISP's resolver), and DNSSEC. The internet is supposed to be decentralized, not centralized.

Cloudflare, Google, and all of these other centralized dns/ntp services are hazardous to our health.

I'm sure you're very knowledgable, but if Paul gives DNS advice, listen to him.

[growse]

> Rather than putting real effort into this

Ah, you're too busy to make the case. Aren't we all.

> DNSSEC. The internet is supposed to be decentralized, not centralized.

DNSSEC centralises the DNS system with governments.

> Cloudflare, Google, and all of these other centralized dns/ntp services are hazardous to our health.

Saying it doesn't make it so.

> I'm sure you're very knowledgable, but if Paul gives DNS advice, listen to him.

I'm familiar with Paul's view. Given that most people can't or won't run a local resolver, how does it help?