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by mytailorisrich 2486 days ago
To me, 'vegan food' is a dish that would normally contain animal products and has been contrived to remove them.
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That doesn't make sense. A huge amount of vegan dishes have never been made with animal products and were never designed to be made with animal products
A vegan is someone who refuses to eat any animal products.

I don't see why all traditional dishes that don't contain animals products should suddenly be labeled vegan. They are suitable for vegan people but I don't want veganism to hijack traditional cultures.

>A vegan is someone who refuses to eat any animal products

Yes, that is the definition of vegan as a noun. As an adjective vegan is describing food using or containing no animal products

i.e. traditional dishes that don't contain animal products are technically vegan, just like all other dishes that don't contain animal products

It's absolutely not hijacking traditional culture. I'm not mandating they call that dish vegan, I'm not saying that it is an american vegan dish, I'm simply saying that there are plenty of traditional dishes that are vegan by definition. Hummus, as an example

Vegan as an adjective is a new term, or at least its use has exploded. This has happened partly for political purposes to hijack aspects of culture, and partly for marketing purposes as a result of this.
Those are unfounded assumptions and opinions. It also doesn't change the fact that that is the current definition of vegan. You can use the word however you want, but the way I'm using it is correct based on the dictionary definition
Why has the use of the term exploded? Why should 'good old' dishes suddenly be labeled?
It’s interesting, under your definition whether something is vegan depends on who is making it.

If your family just happens to make a 4-bean salad without meat, then for you that’s omnivorous.

If I make the exact same salad, but my family growing up typically would have put bacon in it, then that same salad becomes “vegan food” because for me it’s a contrivance.

It’s a relativistic definition of what’s vegan and what’s not.

"Vegan" refers to people, not food. Food is only "suitable for vegans".

There are many, many traditional dishes that do not contain meat or even any animal products. I see no reason to suddenly label them "vegetarian" or "vegan".

But when people work hard to make a burger without any animal products then it does make some sense to call the result "vegan food" in that it was made specifically to suit vegan people.

> "Vegan" refers to people, not food. Food is only "suitable for vegans".

Partially correct.

Vegan, the noun, refers to a person who does not eat or use animal products.

Vegan, the adjective, means using or containing no animal products.

>There are many, many traditional dishes that do not contain meat or even any animal products. I see no reason to suddenly label them "vegetarian" or "vegan".

They are vegan by definition

>But when people work hard to make a burger without any animal products then it does make some sense to call the result "vegan food" in that it was made specifically to suit vegan people.

Perhaps that is your modern interpretation of what "vegan" means, but it is not accurate. Hummus, for example, is a vegan dish regardless of having never contained animal products, and regardless of whether or not the person eating it is vegan.