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by mikorym 2523 days ago
You can't just create forests out of deserts, that is not exactly nature conservation.
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Many deserts were created by man. Just long before our time, so we're used to them.

Not that I think restoring the planet to some technically natural state is particularly desirable. We need a livable and healthy planet a lot more!

The 2 don't have to be perfectly aligned. Wind turbines kill birds, I would expect climate change to kill orders of magnitude more.

So yes you may want to be a purist about it, I'm not sure it's a luxury we can really afford at this time though.

I do not want to conserve nature, i want to convert it to the form that is useful for people.
When the Khoisan and their distant cousins of other names were killed by colonisers from West Africa and later Europe, the Kalahari desert turned out to be a very useful (and the last) place for them.
The exact kind of thinking that got us into this mess in the first place.
If by "this mess" you mean civilisation in general, then yes, civilisation and science have originated in places where people had to make large scale changes to environment to survive (mesopotamia, egypt, etc.). But then "this mess" is much better than the alternative of small tribes living as hunter gatherers, until planet would run out of CO2 in 600mln years https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_far_future
And this is why some many people dismiss climate change as just noise- 'Climate change will kill us all'- 'then we should plant trees here'- 'we can't do that- think of the cacti and gerbils'

If climate change is really something that needs OMG now levels of response you can't then dismiss every response on philosophical reasons.

A desert is by definition the absence of life. There is nothing to conserve.
Have you ever been to a desert? Some deserts are incredibly filled with life and diversity. It's no forest or prairie, but life finds a way. Desert by definition is someplace that gets little rainfall and lacks as much vegetation as other areas.
I have lived near deserts/semi-deserts, they are desolate and miserable places where some life survives despite all odds. Keeping a small number of national parks as deserts is of course important, but that does not need to be more than 1% of the area that is taken by deserts today.